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ARE WHITES ADOPTING BLACK CHILDREN!!!(125)
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I understand what you say Brother, and there is a lot of validity to it. However, tens of millions of Black parents have managed to take care of their children and educate them under evern worse systems and social conditions here than exist now. Yes, reparations are due us, but we live in the here and now, we have to take responsibility for ourselves and our children.
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The child's history is learned through the community as well as the parents. In general, adopted Black kids in White families have done fine. I have met many of them. Sure they had questions, and many learned a lot as they grew up and explored on their own. They still love their parents for taking care of them when no one else would.
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True,and that makes me sad for them.....I'm sure that there are some whites,as well as any other races that will always treat them well,but I guess those horror stories make me a little cynical at times.I just wish for them all to find people that love them,but I know I'm being idealistic.
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I find it hard to decide one way or another about this situation. There is GREAT need, and few African-Americans willing to become foster parents, especially to teens. It's not an easy task. My experience with these youth is that if they have been in the system for a while it is difficulty for them to trust and acclimate to living with another. Certainly the best homes for African-American teens would be to placed with two parent(s) who have firm foundation in their lives and able to provide consistent love, discipline and nurturing to them. Unfortunately, we have few of those families in our community. More of our families are single-parent homes and many of those who are married have tons of other issues. Those who are capable of providing often fear bringing strange youth into their homes, or are too caught up in meeting their material needs and desires for themselves and their kids. Unfortunately, I don't think we have a spirit of altruism in our community because the emphasis is often on self and achieving material gain. That said, there are those who provide homes for youth on a regular basis and do a great job of it. But, the question is whether whites should be able to do it. I think most youth (and I'm speaking of teens) prefer folks who look like them, but if that youth wants to be in a home, I don't think they care what race the folks are. And, the other sad part is we will lose our cultural context if this continues. Black kids will be black in color, but their inner being will reflect their upbringing. All the good we have as people no longer passed from generation to generation. Still African-Americans owe our young people better. It is the job of the older to store up for the young and yet that doesn't happen with regularity. One of my biggest frustrations when working in a middle-school environment was that the greatest majority of mentors, volunteers, tutors are white. Though many had difficulty relating to black youth (especially the strong-willed young brothers and sisters); they put out some effort with constency. In comparison, African-American young adults came most often to fulfill sorority/fraternity pledge requirements and then dropped out just as fast. Sadly, some even had an attitude as though 'better' than the kids they were serving. Bottom line, if we want greater respect, we need to show we care through giving back with greater regularity to our own. ;-) Cheri
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You have so eloquently and tactfully expressed my thoughts on Black interest in adoption that I have little to add other than my personal knowledge that indicates that even Blacks from large families have clued into the unspoken but very effectively communicated message in our communities that the sacrifices and rewards inherent in mothering and fathering are nothing. We've learned by example that the true accomplishments in life are the well paying job, professional sports contract or other livlihoods that can produce the public displays of material consumption (which usually translate to mere use of consumer credit) we are barraged with on a daily basis. I am not at all surprised that we find no benefit in opening up our homes to those who have no parents and providing morality, discipline and love in the life of an unfortunate child above the benefit we would garner from a state subsidy for providing such care. My own mother ( a mother of 7) was miserable and abusive until she was able to leave her children in the care of others and get a federal job which allowed her to buy stuff (although my father was always a capable provider and opposed her working outside of the home). Each of my 4 brothers have children who were on public assistance until their fathers were forced to pay child support by court order and while they were out acquiring a higher standard of living for themselves in their respective professions, marrying other women and either having other children or taking care of that woman's children. I would also add that as an accountant, a civil engineer and a IT Tech who are now able to rescue my mother when she gets into trouble with her longstanding compulsive spending habit, my brothers are now considered invaluable members of the family who are not to be irritated or perturbed for any reason. I don't believe that we are even in the ball park when it comes to valuing each other and life itself. We still have lots of females among us who are torn about whether they should remain in physically and psychologically abusive relationships for the financial benefit they can reap (with grandparents who give advice such as "all married people fight" and who refuse the support necessary to leave such situations on the basis that "I raised mine now you've got to raise yours"). I firmly beleive that it is the widespread lack of support to Black mothers from grandparents that results in most grandparents being forced to keep their grandchildren when the mother's efforts are deemed inadequate by state standards and that the grandparents assume care of the children at that point only to save face with their other relatives who might view them as "worst than an infidel". Most of our young men (with or without children) can't fanthom driving a beat up or older model car so that their children could be cared for by their mothers at home rather than in daycare while the mother works to bring in another paycheck to keep up the appearance of "getting ahead". And you won't hear Creflo Dollar speaking on that subject either no matter how many children he adopted AFTER he was financially secure and able to afford a live-in nanny. We haven't gotten it correct, politically or otherwise, when it comes to the real value of a person and I don't know whether white people have but they may have a better chance of showing the Black children they adopt that love is not an emotion but an action that usually involves self-sacrifice. Blacks seem to vehemently reject that notion. Edited by domeabra1 on June 27, 2006 03:52:18 PM
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Interesting solution. I get your point. The obvious danger of that, is the "red headed step-child" treatment. I opt for reparations so we can start repairing our own. Though with our present mind sets, most of us would probably have to have our payments administered by a trust that requires us to attend value education classes and screens us to make sure we aren't suffering from any addictions (chemical or otherwise) or would have to have the payments doled out monthly and the spending monitored so we don't blow it all on rims, bling bling, grills, weaves, nails and expensive purses. Perhaps something in the nature of the ATM card that were issued after Hurricane Katrina. Of course, there is still going to be some negative press associated with their choices (just as there was after the hurricane) no matter how much of the money is spent wisely. But that problem could probably be solved by imposing a nondisclosure requirement on all merchants accepting the payments.
Edited by domeabra1 on June 27, 2006 04:37:23 PM
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I know I don't have to tell you this but I will. You of all people know how rare it is to find a couple such as yourselves who forgoes having children until they have determined that the marriage is stable and that they are financially able to support them. One question though, does your idea of "financially stable" involve putting your children in the care of others while your wife works.?
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love and compassions has no color and should not be placed in the frame of cultural differences and what society feels should be. Transracial adoptions are commendable in my book as long as the parents teach from all perpectives: including history of the childrens cultural background. also the movtive or driving force should be carefully examined by thoes who choose to adopt outside their race, it should never be experimental or for recogning, I feel that a child placed in a family other than their race can be given a greater opputunity to learn more about another race as well as their own culture if placed in a healthy enviroment embraced by the love of God and thoes who care for them.
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I can only respond to what a child of God would say, I read the Holy Bible and I do love everybody and I have to: because of my beleifs. I'm not racist and people may talk and look and live so different from one another, but love is the key. If anybody wants to raise a child and the child looks and talks different than the parent who wants to adopt them, then it's o.k. I only feel that the person should raised the kids up obeying what the Holy Bible says you should live, now everybody does not beleive in anybody or my Lord and savior Jesus Christ is not their choice. I have a 16 year son, and I was a single parent rasing him alone from day one, and I had God and my family to help me in loving him unconditionally, and God supplies all of my needs according to my riches and glorys. Everybody needs to be loved and as long as the parent isn't gay, or on drugs, or a lesbian or anything unholly than I feel why not let smart, educated, loving people from all walks of the world make somebody else happy and loved. I live in Los Angeles, Ca. and I was born and raised here. But my ancestors come from the south part of the United States, such as Pinebluff, Ark. and Texas, Sweetport Louisiana. Now I see so many unsaved people of the same race as myself.........african american, I'm a child of God, but being called african american is o.k. Kids know nothing about racism their taught these things to either to love or hate. Our culture is either wanting to act white, depending who your rasied up around, and the younger generation really wants to be white so bad to get a good job, they hate being black and they look down on black like black people is the worse culture around. Now I have a son as I've mention and he refuses to affiliate with his own culture, yes he's african american, and he says that our people and mexicans is the last people that he'll associate with, now I pray that he change his ways, and yes he was raised in the chrurch and he was raised up reading the bible also, but he tells me that he's been around his age group and their all about violence and drugs and gangs, and much, much more. I've never seen so many black people who talks like white people and the seem so unhappy, now black history books explain a lot about what we don't want to hear. And we have the black on black crime, and it's so bad that 20% of our culture is safe to be around. I live not in fear but to pray daily night and day for my son to not get killed by the evil one which is of all cultures, and the drugs and gangs is just a part of our nations distruction. Our people hate each other so much, and they hurt each others feelings a lot, and yes I'm mixed with white blood (caucation), and african american, just like a lot of our ancestors was raped and or some of our (black) men and woman wanted to be with other cultures, and that's fine with me. I date no certain culture, God loves everybody and I look past so much and I get alone with most everybody I meet, and the stuck up ones I pray for their lives to bring them happiness. But adopting our own culture works out like this....................some of us can't get alone with our own kids and can't wait until their 18 years old to see them out and away from us. Now we have kids that fight their parents, and smoke drugs and still from their family, and don't go to school. And most of the parents are on crack or in jail or dead from gang banging, or gay or lesbian and the kids aren't claiming them in the public eyesight. I pray that our children who need a parent and is parentless has an adult figure in the environment to teach them the reward that they shall get if they grow up to serve God and be patient and never give up on being obediant to the word of God. Even if the kids don't understand who God is......................I preach the gospal everywhere I go and demonic spirits can't stand me, I wish I could be the one to shelter the lost souls of little kids, and color doesn't matter, kids are kids. Our kids are mostly drug babies and the word of God is real and people need to wake up and yes be the parents that God made us to be. Our kids 18 and under are so stressed out because the love of God is needed so bad. The, and the whole nation is under stress, and the word of God says come to me and I shall give you rest. The unhoused children that's up for adoption here in this nation of God wil o.k. because the bible tells me so. |
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IT'S TRUE ALOT OF WHITES ARE ADOPTING BLACK AND ASIAN CHILDREN. BLAME THE AGENCIES WHO MAKE IT SO DIDDICULT FOR PEOPLE WITH AVERAGE INCOMES TO ADOPT CHILDREN. ALOT OF THESE AGENCIES SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON WHAT THE PERSON CAN GIVE THESE CHILDREN EMOTIONALLY AND SPIRITUALLY...INSTEAD OF JUST FINANCIALLY. I HAVE THREE OF MY OWN BUT IF I COULD TAKE IN 2 MORE CHILDREN WHO NEED A HOME WITHOUT ALL THE RED TAPE MY DOOR IS OPEN.
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Every child needs love, food, clothing, shelter and education in order to develop into a healthy, normal, happy adult. If a black child can and does receive these needs from white adoptive parents my only question is, "What's wrong with that?" How many black children are abandoned by their black biological parents and left to basically fend for themselves in the foster care environment where oftentimes they are abused and neglected? If a white couple wants to adopt a black child then they should be encouraged and allowed to do so. If a black couple wants to adopt a white child the same applies. I'm a black woman, age 28 and I don't have any children yet. I decided a long time ago that if God doesn't bless me with any children by the time I turn 35 I am going to adopt a baby girl. Too many black and Latino/Hispanic children need loving homes and good parents for anyone to deny them the chance to receive these things. One's race should not be an issue at all. |
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Most people who are adopting want a "baby" not a child. They find it hard to influence or teach a child whos older then one who is still a baby. Thats why most older children are still in foster homes and orphanages. I was told at 12 that I could never have children but I have 3 beautiful children. I always said I would adopt no matter the race or age, but i was blessed with three. Adoption prices are crazy I looked into it years back with my mother. You can truely buy a new car with how much you'd spend to get a child.
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love is love. no matter what color this child is or what color the people who adopted said child is, this child will feel the love and protection. If race is an issue than more of us need to step up and adopt these children from africa and places wherein our brothers and sisters cannot do it. I agree to an extent that some whites have adopted african amer., or african children to prove a point the usually backfires on the child. But, something is being done and more can be done about it by us if we only get our shit together and make it happen. now i know i'm gonna catch mad flack for this, but think about it.
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