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T.D. Jakes did not defend is own.(121)

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Sometimes I believe we are the most gullible people on the planet.

"YOU"  know......,  it  REALLY  doesn't  matter  what  ((((((Bishop  T. D.  Jakes))))))  does  !!! 

It's  ALWAYS  going  to  be  the  "minute  few"...,  who  will  forever  STAND  behind  "HIS/HER"  misinformation  and  blast,  vomit  and  splasher accusations......,  'without,  before  or  just  PURELY  drawing  on  ASSUMPTIONS,  before  INTELLIGENTLY  questioning  "YOUR"  emotional  FEARS,  ANGRY  of  HATRED  !!!

Do  "YOU"  really  THINK  the  "powers  that  be"  give  a  rat  aiiss  or  would  for  that  matter,  be  willing  to  go  to  the  TABLE  and  discuss  with  (Mr.  Kanye  West),  the  issues  THAT  set  before  "US"  ???  Yes,  I  really  do  AGREE  with  'his statement.... 

Bishop  T. D. Jakes,  voiced  "HIS"  outrage  at  THIS  tragedy,  when  "HE"  questioned......,  'How  Amerian  have  the  mean  to  address  the  NEEDS  of  our  foriegn  countries...,  yet  FAILED  to  be  of  HELP  to  our  OWN  !!!

Plus  "WE"  are  volunteering  relentlessly  in  EVERY  area  of  'our'  lives  to  fill  in  th  GAP,  inwhich  "YOUR" 'Government'  failed  our  FAMILIES  and  FRIENDS. 

Will  the  President  invite  Bishop  T. D. Jakes  to  the  TABLE  to  discuss  this  travesty ??? 

Sometimes...,  one  has  to  KEEP  an  intelligent  demeanor  to  UNCOVER  the  hidden  agendas,  so  intelligently  HIDDEN  in  'our'  society  today  !!! 

    

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TD Jakes has also stepped to the plate..He was Baton Rouge today visiting one fo the shelters...He is also taking some of the EVACUEES to the Potters House.

Jesse Jackson has been in Baton Rouge practically all week......as of today, he was still here. He and Senator Cleo Fields took 3 buses on Thursday and went in New Orleans to evacuate people while 65 buses were lined up because the drivers were ordered not to go in...Did any of you hear about that?  (Jesse/Cleo) Probably not...they are both black. They rescued all of the Xavier and Dillards students and teachers. Went in, no one shot at them...only problems they had was the flooded areas and on their way out, a lot of the victims made a human gate around the bus begging them to take them too. They promised them they would be back..and they did...the next day went in with 7 buses....Seems like it took those two to get the actual evacuation started.

Bottom line is...the Blacks that are doing positive things to help the evacuees, u will probably not hear about it..So please, lets not assume that they are not something to help. :-)

 

Still...LMAO.... It's All Good 

Some are gullible...





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Please  don't  be  so  QUICK  to  be  STUPID  !!!

Please  understand......,  it's  PART  of  THEIR  game  !!!

Conquer  to  DIVIDE  !!!

She  wanted  Bishop  to TAKE  an  OUT-RIGHT  stand  against  (((Mr.  Kanye  West))),  but  "HE"  refused  to  be  PULLED  into  "her"  trap  !!!

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Greetings!

I just read your response about TD Jakes and would like to say something. He is a man of God and any brother of Christ does not deal in emotion and will never give his or her opinion. A true child of God would guard himself from any attack of the enemy with the Word of God. It is all apart of being Chirstian. Jesus tells us to expect trials, tribulations as well as persecutions. Jesus had these things done to him first and because he is perfect he was able to with stand them as well as conquer sin and death so his children might live and have life more abundantly. Bishop Jakes was truly in the image of God when he gave that response because the worst thing he could have done was to respond to the roar of the enemy. Which would have been a sign of his emotions/flesh(weakness) on Jakes part. Which would have ended up as warfare with the enemy.

"Those who have an hear let him hear what the spirit has to say to the church"

 

Sorry but you can take Oprah off your hit list not only did she donate she is here in Houston.Not in Chicago saying poor people she os here in the Astrodome with people.The problem is that we want people to move in our time and not in God's time. He will move the people that he knows that will help. My question to all of you is What have you done to help? It is not all about money. You could give your time words of encouragement. Again What have you done? Pointing fingers never help.

Y ARE WE CONSIDERED A SELL OUT WHEN WE DON'T AGREE WITH OUR PPL.  EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.  JUST BECAUSE K.WEST CALLED SOMEONE RACIST DOESN'T MEAN IT IS TRUE.  IAM NOT AN ADVOCATE FOR BUSH--DON'T GET ME WRONG--I THINK ALL PPL SUFFERED IN THIS DISATER BLACK AND WHITE--GOD FORBID IF WE ARE LEAVING OUT OUR HISPANIC POPULATION.  I'VE BEEN WATCHING EVERY LOCAL AND CABLE NEWS PROGRAM BEFORE AND AFTER THE HURRICANE--AN I REALLY HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS WAS AN ACT OF MISJUDGEMENT FROM T/HEAD OT THE GOV(FEMA)& AND THE "BIG HEADS" WHO THOUGHT THEY NEW IT ALL AND DIDN'T WANT TO LISTEN--YES OUR PPL DID SUFFER A GREAT DEAL-,BUT SO DID OTHERS--THEY WILL PAY (HNC)--YES I NO IT'S TO LATE,BUT WAT DO WE DO FROM HERE--A WAKE UP CALL LADIES--EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON--DO U NO WAT THE REASON IS--I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT I GUARANTEE U --IT'S WRITTEN IN THAT OLD BLACK BOOK --"THE HOLY BIBLE"

 

PEACE YALL

I don't know what you read or heard, but i heard what he said very clearing. I was not saying that he did not donate, because i know he donated 30,000 dollars, like i said before he did not defend his people. You don't know what you are defending you will be suprised about who td jakes is. 

Oh my God, you sound really funny. You've been hoodwinked. Guess what there are two Jesus one of the church and  the historical Jesus pick one.

What have I done?!!!, Oprah can take a year off  from work and still ain't gonna feel it, Oprah can organize and pay people to help the ones who need help, sorry but I wasn't fortunate or talented enough to become a billlionaire off other people's misery like Oprah did. Finally, as I said before, this ain't even Oprah or any other entertainer's job to help, it's the government's and civil servant's job,  but seeing that she is always preaching Oprah would be a hypocrite not to get involved.

Rappers are entertainers who rap about what they see daily, and they have to do it in a whitty and catchy manner in order for people to buy their music. Peple like T D Jakes are constantly telling people how to live correctly on daily basis, and most of them turn out to be frauds. At least if Jay Z or Diddy gets in an altercation that is expected, because they aren't preaching about what is right or wrong, but what is happening out on the streets.

A lot of rappers are broke, because they are robbed by church going people who run record labels, remember that. 

People are so quick to criticize blacks with money,but this time most of them are stepping up to the plate.

 

Jeffmet

This is one time I agree with you. In a time like this it is every man for himself.
Don't get caught up in the media frenzy. Whether right or wrong, I commend Kanye West for speaking his mind. But on the otherhand, I commend TD for not playing into the media's trap. It is the media who's trying to pitt two high profile black people(Kanye and TD) against each other.

 

TD Jakes has also stepped to the plate..He was Baton Rouge today visiting one fo the shelters...He is also taking some of the EVACUEES to the Potters House.

Jesse Jackson has been in Baton Rouge practically all week......as of today, he was still here. He and Senator Cleo Fields took 3 buses on Thursday and went in New Orleans to evacuate people while 65 buses were lined up because the drivers were ordered not to go in...Did any of you hear about that?  (Jesse/Cleo) Probably not...they are both black. They rescued all of the Xavier and Dillards students and teachers. Went in, no one shot at them...only problems they had was the flooded areas and on their way out, a lot of the victims made a human gate around the bus begging them to take them too. They promised them they would be back..and they did...the next day went in with 7 buses....Seems like it took those two to get the actual evacuation started.

Bottom line is...the Blacks that are doing positive things to help the evacuees, u will probably not hear about it..So please, lets not assume that they are not something to help. :-)

TRUTH!!!!!!!!!

 

TRUTH!!!!!!!!!

Bottom line is...the Blacks that are doing positive things to help the evacuees, u will probably not hear about it..So please, lets not assume that they are not something to help. :-)

Just thought I'd re-arrange and bold-type your words.

T D Jakes told Black people to vote for Bush! 

Why  did so many black preachers and ministers tell their followers to vote for George Bush, and why did so many  Black people follow their directive? Bush was partying when poor black boys were dying in Vietnam. He has no problem sending your boys to fight once again in another war but he won't rescue  black people from dying on American soil. Were these ministers paid  by Republicans to sell out their own people.  How and why did they convince people of color to vote for a man who is anti affirmative action, anti-poor people and even craps on the middle class.  Did you hear what his mother said today??  She expressed that the people in the Astro Dome were better off now because they were poor and had lived in the ghetto.  Did she think they were sleeping with 20,000 other people in New Orleans?  No wonder the president has no empathy, his parents don't have any either.

Here is something that has given me food for thought. I hope people will forward it to everyone they know, especially those folk who are under the influence of religious pimp ministers who would sell out for a plane and a fancy car paid for by poor members of their congregation. These people preach prosperity above morality and we wonder why the Black community is strugling.


Copy and send  what is written below  to every PIMP preach in your community and forward this to as many people you know.  These people need to be exposed for what they are!

To: Rev. Keith Butler (Detroit, Rev. Wayans (Detroit), Pastor T.D. Jakes and the rest of you that this applies to:

 

 

 

Is it true that you encouraged your church members to vote for George Bush? Then you are in league with the prince of darkness and you will certainly face the wrath of God.  Why did you do it?  Because he or the Republican party gave you money or support to sell out Black people.  Was it because he said he believed in life and wanted to protect the institution of marriage?  Were two issues used to dupe you worth leading your people to wander in the wilderness for 100 years worth it.  You have supported a man who was a drunk until he was 40, who evaded the war in Vietnam while thousands of young poor men, especially black men died in disproportionate numbers on blood soaked hills killing people that never did a thing to them. At the time, Bush was having a party and showing up for guard duty…some of the time.  You used the lord to encourage people to vote for a man whose concern is the rich and the   powerful and who wants to change social security for the normal people while cutting taxes for the rich and protecting the inheritance of  their generation and class. Much of that wealth stolen and built on the backs of poor people.  Some how you convinced weak people to ignore John Carey, a man who was a war hero, an advocate for the poor even though he is rich just as the Kennedy family fought for civil rights and the poor.  Why?  Why would you support a man who would dishonor the poor, appoint judges that would vote against civil rights under the cover of conservatives politics?  You are educated, and you must surely know that conservative right wing rhetoric cover is just a new white robe with a pointed hat.  It’s racism with a smile and a thank you?  Why would you lead your people to the devil?  The Bible says the meek shall inherit the earth.  Why are you standing in God’s way.

 

And another thing, God is not a corporation.  So knock it off. To those of you flying around in jets that are paid for with God’s money, pasturing churches in more than one city, shame on you.  Many of the people who are paying for your fancy cars and your life style can’t even pay their bills. You are nor evident in your community.  You are not doing God’s work.  Babies are being born out of wedlock and Black men and women are not being taught to respect themselves and one another…but you got a fancy car and some other materialistic goodies.  When was the last time that you and your kind stood up to build centers for black kids where they could receive love, mentoring, tutoring in their studies, a safe place to go without fear of being shot at, where some one tells them they can be or do anything where they are taught by EXAMPLE that things are not what you value.  They can’t get that from men of the cloth who preach prosperity over people.

 

 

I don’t care if you throw this away and pretend that you never saw it. God knows and sees all.  He sees you.  I don’t live in Detroit any more, but I grew up there. It is a city I love and I hate what has happened to it.  When I was growing up, ministers and preachers were usually people who stood for the right things.  Oh don’t get me wrong, you religious pimps have always existed and I expect that those who have long since died now spend eternity in darkness for what they did on earth.  A car, fancy house and small jets just are not worth your soul.

 

You along with George Bush are responsible for the misery and death in New Orleans and the gulf coast.  You supported a president who just doesn’t care.  He has been rich and pampered all of his life, which is no excuse.  There are rich people with a conscience, but remember the Bible tells you that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven.  Now the Prince of Darkness is going to appoint judges that will reverse years

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What have I done?!!!, Oprah can take a year off  from work and still ain't gonna feel it, Oprah can organize and pay people to help the ones who need help, sorry but I wasn't fortunate or talented enough to become a billlionaire off other people's misery like Oprah did. Finally, as I said before, this ain't even Oprah or any other entertainer's job to help, it's the government's and civil servant's job,  but seeing that she is always preaching Oprah would be a hypocrite not to get involved

Put down that crack pipe....lol. Don't blame Oprah for working hard and pulling HERSELF out of poverty. Yes, an overweight, dark skinned, poverty strickened, victim of molestation and incest worked hard and became successful.

 

TD Jakes does not have to apoligize to anyone.

 

Jeffmet

I agree with u now everybody is on this man case and I was just listening to him on the Tom Joyner show . He said that he was not gonna play into the media bias by stating if  it was racial or not . He said the problem with many blacks is we sit here and be angry and we need to be angry later and help these folks now . He has gave a million dollars and is giving 250,000 more and he is working on giving these victims permanent housing in the Dallas, tx area. He also have express the concern not only for the victims in N.O , but about poor people period around the U.S he has mention to Bush what is he gonna do about it and He expressed that we as black needs to stop the allegation right now and try to help these folks and   there will be an investigation later. Even Tavis Smiley mention it was good to see the Bishop and Rev. Jesse Jackson get together and bring in buses and food for people in Baton  Rouge.

T.D Jakes was man enough to say we know it may have some  things to do with race , but its also to do with the poor also. He said its nothing wrong with being angry, but lets put that aside and let get off our buts and help these people and stop blaming and bickering , we know that the govt drop the ball some kind way, but we will deal with that later. He is also express that we have to continue to help these people and no matter what... we gonna need some type of help from the govt. sooner or later we cant do all this alone , but we can put the pressure on them to do better with these victims of hurricane Katrina and the poor people in America.

That is what he discussed on T.J morning show and its funny how we see stuff on t.v and get it twisted sit back and chill sometimes we dont know what these folks are doing.........We are always attacking the preachers about doing stuff they are not only giving money, they are also down thier helping the victims get the care they they need..............Yeah Jay-Z, Diddy, and alot of other r/b, entertainer, rappers gave money cool .... ok now take that shit to another level.... Kayne West shut your trap up and get down there like these Black activist and preachers and open your wallet and pick up some buckets and food and pass it to the victims and then u can keep bitching while u doing it , because u and other Rappers are able to take some time out and do that ...Fuck the telethons and shit about doing concerts to raise money... let the white folks handle that part and we as blacks that are able to get down there and get our hands dirty and give big time money stop all this damn talking and start helping too............

Louis Farahhkan........( where u at u telling me u and the nation could not get buses and your people to help?)

Oprah Winfery...(Oh now u want visit cause your boy Dr. Phil beat u to the punch....A lotta victims could used them G6 pontiacs right about now?.....Im pretty sure u will do something  just thought  I call that out though...She doing a special in Lousiana as we speak the old Oprah good for her...)

Russell Simmons...( u cant bring your ass down there and pick up some buckets and pass food...?) also u write that check for a couple millions while u at it?

Condelezza Rice ....(Bring your ass and talk and hug and shake these victims hands and help pass out food)

Larry Elders, Tom Sowell,  Armstrong, Nigel Innis......(Bring your asses down and help do something for the blacks and the poor and see and ask question why the govt. took so long..?)

Black Cauces and NAACP... (ok u hot and u right on it could be a poor and black thang.......ok shut up Bring your asses and lets get to helping these folks get housing..........)

BET.....(Im not for sure....But where were u with your journalist to try to not let other media put the spin on blacks in this crises .......u should had your folks down there to counter attack every got damn thing the other media came out thier mouth to keep it fair and balance.....If they say blacks were looting u should have said there trying to find food and clothing for the most of them that were doing that....If they said Refugees u could been there and said the victims and shut all that shit down that Fox and other media where putting these people as........)

This is just a tip of stuff we as blacks need to be on top of shit right then and there............Peace

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