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Sharpton hosting Imus on radio show

By MARCUS FRANKLIN, Associated Press Writer 18 minutes ago

Don Imus will appear on the Rev. Al Sharpton's radio show Monday, five days after Imus made racially charged comments on his own show about the Rutgers women's basketball team, Sharpton and MSNBC announced Sunday.

Despite Imus' scheduled appearance, Sharpton said his position was unchanged: He wants Imus fired and intends to write the Federal Communications Commission about the matter.

"Somewhere we must draw the line in what is tolerable in mainstream media," Sharpton said Sunday. "We cannot keep going through offending us and then apologizing and then acting like it never happened. Somewhere we've got to stop this."

The Rev. Jesse Jackson said his RainbowPUSH Coalition plans to protest Monday in Chicago outside the offices of NBC, which owns MSNBC, over the remark Imus made last Wednesday during his show.

Imus said members of the mostly black Rutgers University women's basketball team were "nappy-headed hos."

The team, which includes eight black women, had lost the day before in the NCAA women's championship game. Imus was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk about the game when the exchange began on the show, which is broadcast to millions of people on more than 70 stations and the MSNBC television network.

"That's some rough girls from Rutgers," Imus said. "Man, they got tattoos ... ."

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

Jackson said protests are being planned across the country.

"If he has a right to use that platform to insult and degrade then we have a moral obligation to picket NBC and to protest," Jackson said. "If he can violate us in that platform in the name of free speech we'll be picketing NBC in the name of free speech."

James E. Harris, president of the New Jersey chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, demanded Sunday that Imus "resign or be terminated immediately."

Allison Gollust, a spokeswoman for MSNBC, which simulcasts "Imus in the Morning," said the network considers Imus' comments "deplorable" and is reviewing the matter.

Karen Mateo, a spokeswoman for CBS Radio, Imus' employer and the owner of WFAN-AM, said the company was "disappointed" in Imus' actions and characterized his comments as "completely inappropriate."

Imus, who has not been publicly disciplined, apologized on the air Friday.

"It was completely inappropriate, and we can understand why people were offended. Our characterization was thoughtless and stupid, and we are sorry," Imus said, according to a transcript on MSNBC's Web site.

HE SHOULD BE FIRED.

As soon as Al and Jesse get their "donations" from Imus,  the issue will be dead in the water...

Im going to give you a more pronounced moderation of what should be done with this Racist.

First; he need to be fired indefinitely, and made as a risk for all stations in the country.

Second; he needs to be fined not less then $500,000 by abusing the public airways.

Third;  he needs to be sued by the Basketball team that he defamed.

Forth;  he should promote community exposure to only Black/African American Female Basketball teams, for a period of no less then 5 years.

Fifth; The INDUSTRY OF NBC he works for needs to be fined; and be forced to be sponsors to the Female Basketball team.

TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY   THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THEY UNDERSTAND.

We let seinfeld get away with it; now the rest of them think that they can do the same.

That is a good idea. What punishments should we equally do to people who speak the reverse in our own community about non-Black people.  Statments that are said that for some reason seem to fly under the radar?  I'm sure we don't want double standards in this area.

I have not heard about any Black/African American radio stations that openly and publicly downgrade/verbally assualting the european culture.  Have you?  Even; "Jimmy the Greek" lost his job for such an action.

Gross abuse of the public airways is totally different from having a private conversation with someone, within your confides.    Some type of Censorship should be placed in the public sector.  There used to be a law that limited cursing in public.   

 It is not all right to verbally abuse anyone because of their culture, it was uncalled for, and it was not provoked.  WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE!  All the downgrading that the record industry has promoted, it time for a change, in our use of public airways.  ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

I have nothing against respecting each other, but when a person has nothing nice to say about another; or their culture on the open airways, or on television it is very offensive (regardless of race)(childish), unless you pay to see, or hear these things.  This teaches others to be totally disrespectful, and  yet; the disease continues to grow.

It is best not to say anything, if you cant say something nice. 

In public, I have heard Sharpton himself say things that aren't too nice about white people, true or not.

Farakhan has said some things that aren't the nicest, along with other memebers of the NOI or other Black nationalists.

People on this board, which is a public forum, have said things that I'm sure white people would take offense to.  I also see individuals say very mean things about migrant workers from Mexico. 

My point is, yes what he said was wrong, but he is not alone, this is a two way street. You should know by now I am about fairness and trying to way things equal, this topic is no suggestion.  Yes fire the bum and throw him out on his ass, but let's also remember this when inflamatory things are said about others, and by our own people.  Would we be up in arms if he said somthing deragatory about say Latina women or Asian women, or the flavor of the times Middle Eastern.  Probably not, but we most certainly should be.

I cannot understand if you want to debate me for wanting to be fair and use equal scales?

I never heard Sharpton or Farakhan describe anyone of european culture by targeting them as descriptive to call all Black/African American (nappy headed) Female Basketball players as   Ho*s. 

This is just gross misuse of the airways and the English language.

Im not denying your two way street of things.  Im not saying that it hasnt been done before; by or to some other group of people. 

I am saying that; ITS PAST TIME FOR IT TO STOP!

This is a new Century all the old battering and abusive ways are going to come out.  This type of abuse is what harms people psychologically.  This is what is part of our problem is; as human beings; lack of respect. 

Its not going to stop over night, because this is something that has been going on sense the first contact that europeans have had with different cultures.  It might take another century before we program into people the components of treating each-other as human beings.

NO!                  IM NOT TRYING TO DEBATE WITH YOU!  LAWD KNOWS IM NOT TRYING TO DEBATE WITH YOU!    :)

You're never heard them say deragatory things? I sat in a gymnasium in 1992 as Minister Farakhan sat there and called Jews "Blood Suckers".  Now taken out of context it could be very offensive, but he went on and explained why he called them that, and after his explanation I agreed with why, but I still think he could have used another term.  The media jumped all over it and only said he called them blood suckers.  Now this is not to say that I think this was done by Inus.  I think he meant exactly what he said.  Instead of firing him, why not let the women's basketball team have an hour with him. They are probably larger and could do some better damage. The embarassment would be much better than firing him.  After that he would probably quit and we would not hear from him for quite some time.

Why not debate me? I'm harmless and innocent like a gentle lamb!

You are right.  He needs to have the team on the show and he needs to apologize  to them-- but you know what, I agree, he meant what he said. He is just being who he is and no amount of protesting is going to change it. He's just sorry for the negative attention he's getting, not for what he said. He's just like Limbaugh, Gingrich, etc. Aging, bitter White men who are threatened by minorities, so they resort to name-calling because it's passive-aggressive and it makes them feel good.

CBS radio, MSNBC to suspend Imus 2 weeks

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer1 hour, 54 minutes ago

CBS Radio and MSNBC both said Monday they were suspending Don Imus' morning talk show for two weeks as a protest grew about his reference last week to members of the Rutgers women's basketball team as "nappy-headed hos."

The suspension begins next Monday.

MSNBC, which telecasts the radio show, said Imus' expressions of regret and embarrassment, coupled with his stated dedication to changing the show's discourse, made it believe suspension was the appropriate response.

"Our future relationship with Imus is contingent on his ability to live up to his word," the network said.

Imus, who has made a career of cranky insults in the morning, was fighting for his job following the joke that by his own admission went "way too far." He continued to apologize Monday, both on his show and on a syndicated radio program hosted by the Rev. Al Sharpton, who is among several black leaders demanding his ouster.

Imus could be in real danger if the outcry causes advertisers to shy away from him, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio. The National Organization for Women is also seeking Imus' ouster.

"Everyone is on tenterhooks waiting to see whether it grows and whether the protest gets picked up more broadly," Taylor said.

Imus isn't the most popular radio talk-show host — the trade publication Talkers ranks him the 14th most influential — but his audience is heavy on the political and media elite that advertisers pay a premium to reach. Authors, journalists and politicians are frequent guests — and targets for insults.

He has urged critics to recognize that his show is a comedy that spreads insults broadly. Imus or his cast have called Colin Powell a "sniffling weasel," New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson a "fat sissy" and referred to Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado, an American Indian, as "the guy from `F Troop.'" He and his colleagues also called the New York Knicks a group of "chest-thumping pimps."

On Sharpton's program Monday, Imus said that "our agenda is to be funny and sometimes we go too far. And this time we went way too far."

Imus made his remark the day after the Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, lost the NCAA women's championship game to Tennessee. He was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk and said "that's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ..."

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

The Rutgers comment has struck a chord, in part, because it was aimed at a group of young women at the pinnacle of athletic success. It also came in a different public atmosphere following the Michael Richards and Mel Gibson incidents, said Eric Deggans, columnist for the St. Petersburg Times and chairman of the media monitoring committee of the National Association of Black Journalists. The NABJ's governing board, which doesn't include Deggans, wants Imus canned.

"This may be the first time where he's done something like this in the YouTube era," Deggans said. Viewers can quickly see clips of Imus' remarks, not allowing him to redefine their context, he said.

On his show Monday, Imus called himself "a good person" who made a bad mistake.

"Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody, because some people don't deserve it," he said. "And because the climate on this program has been what it's been for 30 years doesn't mean that it has to be that way for the next five years or whatever because that has to change, and I understand that."

New Jersey Gov. Jon S. Corzine spoke to Rutgers players Monday and said later that he strongly condemned Imus' words.

"There is absolutely no excuse for his conduct, and he is right to apologize," Corzine said. "Only the Rutgers women's basketball team, however, can decide to accept his apology. If Mr. Imus really wants to go and learn from this, he should watch how these young ladies carry themselves. He might just learn from their example."

Rutgers players said they planned to make a public statement on Tuesday.

Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), whose presidential candidacy has been backed by Imus on the air, said he would still appear on Imus' program.

"He has apologized," McCain said. "He said that he is deeply sorry. I'm a great believer in redemption. Whether he needs to do more in order to satisfy the concerns of people like the members of that team, that's something that's between him and them. But I have made many mistakes in my life ... and I have apologized, and most people have accepted that apology."

Imus' radio show originates from WFAN in New York City and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both of which are managed by CBS. The show reached an estimated 361,000 viewers on MSNBC in the first three months of the year, up 39 percent from last year. That's the best competitive position it has ever achieved against CNN (372,000 viewers).

Imus' fate could ultimately rest with two of the nation's most prominent media executives: CBS Corp. chief Leslie Moonves and Jeff Zucker, head of NBC Universal.

"He will survive it if he stops apologizing so much," said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers. Imus clearly seems under corporate pressure to make amends, but he's nearly reached the point where he is alienating the fans who appreciate his grumpy outrageousness.

Even if he were to be fired, he's likely to land elsewhere in radio, Harrison said.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson and about 50 people marched Monday outside Chicago's NBC tower to protest Imus' comments. He said MSNBC should abandon Imus and MSNBC should hire more black pundits.

Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP board of directors, said it is "past time his employers took him off the air."

"As long as an audience is attracted to his bigotry and politicians and pundits tolerate his racism and chauvinism to promote themselves, Don Imus will continue to be a serial apologist for prejudice," Bond said.

Imus was mostly contrite in his appearance with Sharpton, although the activist did not change his opinion that Imus should lose his job. At one point Imus seemed incredulous at Sharpton's suggestion that he might walk away from the incident unscathed.

"Unscathed?" Imus said. "How do you think I'm unscathed by this? Don't you think I'm humiliated?"

___

AP writers Deepti Hajela and Jacques Billeaud contributed to this account.

I applaud your insight.

It is apparent that the statements that were made were insensative to the Rutgers players (to a point). It is also apparent that there should be action taken to ensure that certain lines are not crossed again, even if made in gest. There is a much to do about nothin', it was white folks who coined the phrase "dykes in spikes" when speaking of the white women on the PGA tour. There is an overwhelming anti-PC sentiment that is prevailing in our society. It has dominated ouir media for years (ie. Wendy Williams, Howard Stern, Don Imus, Opus and Andy, Bill Mahrer, Penn and Teller, Dice Clay, Bernie Mac, Star and Buc Wild, Martin Lawrence, Jamie Foxx, Roseanne Barr, Wanda Sykes and Chris Rock  just to name some). 

I feel that if the shoe was on the other foot and a black commentator made a derogatory statement about a white person, it would be laughed off as just comedy. There are black comedians that on a nightly basis use the diiferences between whites and blacks as a source of material. White folks are the punchlines of many of our own jokes. If they step up and protest we give them atittude, and rehash 400 years of oppression as an excuse for being insensative towards them. If the shoe was on the other foot and a white person was caught making a racial joke in the work place, there would be class action lawsuits coming out the azz. 

It is real easy to hide behind the past and not address the present. We give the world images that would make the most innocent of heart shudder at the thought of being near a person of color, but we raise up in arms when someone different states the obvious.

Equality is equality, and what is good for the goose is good for the gander. The are no entitlments due. We are not Superior, just diiferent. We should teach our children the same.Forget about the 40 acres and a mule........what the hell are you gonna do with them any way???? I am not saying we should forget or past, but we should not use it as a crutch t limp into the future.

Bottom line.........If they can't talk about us, we can't talk about them. That is equality!!!!!!

 

 "HO"

ROOT WORD WHORE

AN OFFENSIVE TERM FOR PROSTITUTE---

AN OFFENSIVE TERM FOR SOMEBODY REGARDED AS BEING SEXUALLY INDISCRIMINATE---

WHICH WE ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN THE UNDERLING  FEELING ABOUT BLACK WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY FOR HOW LONG??? ANY WOMAN CALLED A WHORE/HO  WOULD BE OFFENDED..MAYBE YOU SHOULD ASK YOUR AUNT-OR MOM how THEY WOULD FEEL IF THIS WORD WERE USED TO DESCRIBE THEM...

IN PRIVITE,OR BETTER YET national TV?

 

NEED I SAY MORE

On Jay Leno tonight:

What do Don Imus and an Easter Egg have in common? They both are white and in hot water!!!!!!! LMAO

.....and today Don Imus went on Al Sharptons radio show to beg forgivness..........and of course nobody believes this...............what, Al Sarpton has a radio show?!?!   BADUMPDUMP!

I hear your point about the word hoe/whore. I gotta question, of ALLLLthe derogatory words that can be used to describe a black female or any female in that matter.

Which one is NOT being played on every urban/black radio station in America, or used in every black comics set or rap concert that is being performed by BLACK ARTIST?

If we use these demeaning words to describe ourselves (meaning black folks) how can we get mad at someone else for callling us the same?

In public, I have heard Sharpton himself say things that aren't too nice about white people, true or not.

Farakhan has said some things that aren't the nicest, along with other memebers of the NOI or other Black nationalists.

Come on now, let's deal with reality because the playing field has never been and is still not equal for Blacks and as it is for Whites. White people's comments and outburst comes from their engrained mentality of thinking that they are superior and that Blacks are less than they are, and when Black people make comments or outburst, it is usually out of retaliation for all of the suffering that they have been through. Therefore, when Whites makes those derogatory comments against Black people, their actions needs to be dealt with more aggressively because their actions represent the implications of entitlement, racism, and superiority, and Black people's actions usually represent resentment and anger from all of the inhumanity and unequal treatment that White people have put them through. So, first and foremost, the main players (White people), have to be stopped with aggressive actions, and as a result, the other players (Black people), would not feel soo much resentment and anger, and they wouldn't have a need to lash back. You have to stop the ones who started the fight from the beginning first, and everything else will fall into place.

Yes you do need to say more because like I said, I've heard Black people say a lot of deragatory things about white people, like "Ho" and other things as well. Shoot, I grew up on Hip-Hop and what do I hear on there all the time from Black artist about our own Black women "Ho, bitch, slut, tramp, etc etc".   This is not a one sided street at all.  From your tone, it sounds like you think I am defending Inus and I am not. What I am saying is the scales need to be equal when anyone offends anyone, either all or none.  Don't punish one group for doing it, and then not the other.

You also are focusing on the "ho" part and it's more the nappy headed that has people up in arms, that is what let's us know the remarks were not just gender, but ethnic specific.  Notice in the article it says that he was talking to his producer who called them "hos" as well. Not one word has been said about the producer, Bernard McGuirk, who didn't use a racial slur.

Imus made his remark the day after the Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, lost the NCAA women's championship game to Tennessee. He was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk and said "that's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ..."

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

In public, I have heard Sharpton himself say things that aren't too nice about white people, true or not.

Farakhan has said some things that aren't the nicest, along with other memebers of the NOI or other Black nationalists.

Come on now, let's deal with reality because the playing field has never been and is still not equal for Blacks and as it is for Whites. White people's comments and outburst comes from their engrained mentality of thinking that they are superior and that Blacks are less than they are, and when Black people make comments or outburst, it is usually out of retaliation for all of the suffering that they have been through. Therefore, when Whites makes those derogatory comments against Black people, their actions needs to be dealt with more aggressively because their actions represent the implications of entitlement, racism, and superiority, and Black people's actions usually represent resentment and anger from all of the inhumanity and unequal treatment that White people have put them through. So, first and foremost, the main players (White people), have to be stopped with aggressive actions, and as a result, the other players (Black people), would not feel soo much resentment and anger, and they wouldn't have a need to lash back. You have to stop the ones who started the fight from the beginning first, and everything else will fall into place.

There is an old saying, maybe you've heard of it:

TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT !

i dont understand y we as a people dont understand that white people do not like us ,never have and never will. what we need to do is start doing for ourselves and seperate ourselves from them totally. we will never be accepted by these people so y do we get ourselves in an uproar when one of them makes an outlandish comment or does something that offends our people it will never end so y b suprised. im not bothered by his comments because he expressed his true feelings the ones that bother me r the ones who feel the way he does but hide it and hinder us from forward progress which is y i feel we should totally seperate from them then we wont have to worry about things of this nature
thankyou.... I agree

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