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Cervical Cancer and Black Women(150)

Discussion started on  04/17/2003 04:30:29 AM  by  AdLeBrock
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Yesterday, I went for my six week check up and all was well. Now my gynea made an appointment for the following month for me to have my Pap smear as she couldn`t do it then. So we started talking about cervical cancer affecting more black women than other women of other races.

So I was waiting for a detailed medically informed explanation as to why this is. I have always thought that the reason would be that there`s something in our make up as Black women that made us more vulnerable to the desease. And this is what she had to say:

The reason why Black women get it more is because we, as Black women, tend to start our sexual relations earlier and we are more likely to have numerous sexual partners. Well, I was shocked, not to mention offended, as she went through the statistics. So I asked if this explanation applied to all Black women around the globe and she said yes.

Now my gynea is Coloured (multiracial), which means that she would also be called Black in some other parts of the world. I proceeded to ask if she considered herself part of these women with the high risk factor as she is also of African descent and she said "not really", as she`s not black.

Now if this is a behavioural desease is it fair to single out one group of women, and the black thing is very confusing to me. Do African women get it more than "coloured" women and if they do, do the Black women in other parts of the world fit into this category of being more vulnerable even though they are mixed in most parts.

Any thoughts?

 

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the number of moments that take our breath away

Just a thought, use it... don`t use it....

 

 

It doesn't matter who the messenger is.  A lot of lifestyle choices black women make are very, very detrimental to our health.

We really need to heed the warnings and pay attention tot he statistics.  Don't get offended because knowledge is power.

You need to get a new gynocologist.  She is passing out lies masquerading as fact.  You probably have HPV.  What you don't know that it's estimated that up to 80% of the adult population (male and female, black or white) have this virus in their system.  Condoms don't prevent it as it's a skin-to-skin disease, and not transmitted by body fluids.  True, the more partners you have and the earlier you have them makes you more likely to contract it, but don't believe the hype about black women being more prone to getting it because of BW's promiscuity.  WW have it in large numbers too.  If your practitioner is passing out this bad information to you, you have to wonder what other information she's passing to you.

It doesn't matter who the messenger is.  A lot of lifestyle choices black women make are very, very detrimental to our health.

We really need to heed the warnings and pay attention tot he statistics.  Don't get offended because knowledge is power.

EXACTLY. Sometimes the truth hurts. But ignoring it can bring even more pain.

 

 

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Whether you are black, white, yellow, red or brown, if you are a RACIST, I wish you the same fate as the DINOSAURS.

Your gynaecologist is off with her facts and imo, unprofessional.

Cervical cancer has more to do with socio-economic status. Nationally, cervical cancer rates are disproportionately higher among African American females when compared to whites. Unfortunately, this holds true for the incidences of other so called "preventable" forms of cancer.

If you’re offended, complain…just get yourself checked.

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The reason why Black women get it more is because we, as Black women, tend to start our sexual relations earlier and we are more likely to have numerous sexual partners. Well, I was shocked, not to mention offended, as she went through the statistics. So I asked if this explanation applied to all Black women around the globe and she said yes.

 

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Wrong!  So wrong...blacks as well as a lot of other minorities tend not to get regular healthcare due to the escalating costs of health insurance, doctor care etc.  In other words, being treated for an STD is pivotal to a woman's overall health.  Many women do not know that they have an STD, much less go for treatment.  Cervical Cancer has been directly linked to STD's.  The more partners the more likely to catch multiple STD's is true, but many only have their first visit to the gyn when things have gotten unbearable painful or the woman is pregnant.  Half truths twisted with lies, are still lies and speculation. 

A woman can catch an STD with one partner.  A woman develop cervical even if she was a virgin with one husband, if the husband has had many partners.

I don't care what you think about me, just don't get in my way!

Thank you, Sadriana.
So basically your gyno said ALL black women have sex early and have multiple partners putting them at high risk for cervical cancer.  Now that is a lie.  I don't like the attitude of your gyno, she sounds very biased and negative.  All women should be careful with the selection of their partners because even a virgin on her wedding night can contract HPV and end up at risk.

 

All women should be careful with the selection of their partners because even a virgin on her wedding night can contract HPV and end up at risk.

Unless you're a virgin marrying another virgin, this really doesn't matter because most men do not know they have HPV or are carriers of HPV, and he could have worn a condom with every sex partner he had, HPV is transmitted skin-to-skin instead of by bodily fluids.

<<Unless you're a virgin marrying another virgin, this really doesn't matter because most men do not know they have HPV or are carriers of HPV, and he could have worn a condom with every sex partner he had, HPV is transmitted skin-to-skin instead of by bodily fluids.>>

There are many different types of HPV.  A wart on your arm is less dangerous than a wart near or on mucous membranes.  If the warts are on or near the cervical area that's where the risk of cancer comes from.

 

There are many different types of HPV.  A wart on your arm is less dangerous than a wart near or on mucous membranes.  If the warts are on or near the cervical area that's where the risk of cancer comes from

I am referring to the genital form of HPV.  It is not transmitted by bodily fluids, so condoms aren't helpful.  The virus could be on your butt, and if it touches your partner's vaginal lips it will be transmitted.  In additional, while HPV causes genital warts, you can have HPV without ever having genital warts.

< A lot of lifestyle choices black women make are very, very detrimental to our health. ? >

Yeah, like the detrimental behaviors of 50% of all Black Women with the AIDS, REPORTING that they had sexual relationships with a KNOWN heterosexual IV DRUG abuser!

I guess it goes back to that old saying... "You can dress them up, put a weave in their hair, send them to graduate school to get their Ph.D, but unless the Black woman changes her heart, she's NEVER change her circumstances!

Reminds me of just the other day, I read about a Black woman in my neighboring city. She had a Ph.D in psychology, and had headed a regional chapter for a Women's domestic violence and abuse center. Her abusive boyfriend of 8 years finally murdered her in his rage. The woman's family said they warned her time and time again... not to kepp taking the thug back, but she'd always take him back--thinking she could change a street thug into a stateman.

What good is the knowledge of that Ph.D, without the understanding and wisdom TO APPLY what you've learned, IN YOUR OWN LIFE? 

Shame... Yeah sistahs... do what you have to do to stay healthy and safe.

Conqueror that fear in your life which prevents you from seeing your doctor IMMEDIATELY when you notice a change in your health and in your body. 

White, Hispanic and Asian women RUN to their doctors for any and everything. This is ONE REASON these women are diagnoised earlier and receive more successful treatments than Black women.

P.S. There's a new study coming out in the Journal of Black Studies next month. Correlation had been made with the rate of UNMARRIED Black females having higher incidents of AIDS and certain Cancers than MARRIED Black women.

The study suggest that UNMARRIED black women tend to have MANY MORE sexual partners, increasing their exposure to HIV/AIDS and certain infections that stimulate various cancer cells.

Is there anyone who can offer any contradicting evidence to the JBS findings or can logically refute these findings in their upcoming publication?

 


Edited 4/18/2003 2:27:07 PM ET by LG_Wise

you could have fooled me in people loving to believe that black women are more sexually active then other races of women.

I guess all the WHITE girls on film "Girls gone Wild" are just white girls sitting around braiding each other's hair.

give me a f'ing break!

the only problem black women have is f'ing niggas and not making the nigga wear a condom with his nasty scrubby ass, who probably f'd a white girl who f'd a dog!

ya heard!

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LG Wise,

What are you trying to say?  We have all discussed the reasons why Black women are contracting the disease, but you seem to be getting hostile.  No one is denying the lack of healthcare with our people but being judgemental about black women as a whole is not what the thread is intended to be.

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I guess it goes to that old saying... "You can dress them up, put a weave in their hair, send them to graduate school to get their Ph.D, but unless the Black woman changes her heart, she's NEVER change her circumstances!

Comment:

Those with access to health insurance and given the knowledge of healthcare and the importance to their bodies, will take care of it regardless of education.  Just because you have the education doesn't necessarily mean you can afford the health insurance.  Although I was not sexually active, I started going to a gyn at the time of my first period.  Why?  My parents instilled the beliefs of knowing my body, taking care of it and what to do if something is wrong. Avoidance of sexual issues, healthcare and our bodies begins as a child. 

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P.S. There's a new study coming out in the Journal of Black Studies next month. Correlation had been made with the rate of UNMARRIED Black females having higher incidents of AIDS and certain Cancers than MARRIED Black women.

Comment:

I wish these people would have talked to me, I am registered with the Black Women's Health Study at the Brigham University and take a survey every year about my healthcare.  I am unmarried and I have never had an STD or any problems contributed to sexually activity!!!!  Hmmmmm

I don't care what you think about me, just don't get in my way!



Edited 4/18/2003 8:15:37 AM ET by Sadriana

My personal belief is that cervical cancer tend to affect black women more because many black women tend not to get their daily pap smear check  up routine especially when you tend to reach a certain  age alot of the times black women if they don't feel sick they tend not to go to the docter .

 My aunt died of cervical cancer three years ago the main facter was when she found out she had cancer her docter ask her when was the last time she had her pap smear done  her last son was eighteen at the time  she didnt have any  done from the time he was very young and it could have been prevented or caught in time if she had put more effort into her health check up. I may  think it has to do with sexual partners at an early age but in some cases if you have  multiple partners  they are shape differently in penis size  so  it may tend to do certain  damage to cervical  tissues.

Ladies I magine when you are having intercourse and sometimes you feel like the mans penis is   hitting againts your cervical wall  it can be very painfull as hell so having differen't sexual partners may contribute not all.

 

 

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I can not believe the ignorance of some Sisters today... Here, the orignal poster gives you a PSA. The information she provides is factually CORRECT, and still you bloodclots refuse to accept it because your pride and ego gets in the way. All you had to do is look the shyt up and you'd see their IS a correlation between multiple sexual partners and cervical cancer. You haughty, prideful attitude is the root for all your problems in life -- not the White man, the White Woman or the Black man. You Sisters are being destroyed today because YOU REJECT knowledge!

Cervical Cancer Caused by Multiple Sexual Partners


I've heard that having multiple partners increases your risk of cervical cancer. Is this true?

Sexual activity and high numbers of partners are strong predictors of which women will get cervical cancer. This pattern suggests that something is being transmitted sexually to trigger the cancer.

Certain sub-types of Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) are often found in women's cervical cells when they have cancer or pre-cancerous changes. HPV is sexually transmitted virus. Careful study of these viruses has shown them to have cancer causing genes. While HPV is likely a factor in the development, it does not mean that HPV is the sole cause of cervical cancer.

Low levels of Vitamin A and Folate are associated with cervical cancer. Smokers have more cervical cancer and toxins have also been found in cervical cancer cells. This suggests that enviromental toxins can play a role. Any kind of impairment of the immune system--such as AIDS--is associated with more cervical cancer. This indicates that the woman's own body defenses.

Women may lessen their chances of being exposed to HPV by using condoms. Regardless of a woman's sex life, her best defense against cervical cancer is regular Pap tests. Cervical cancer takes an average of 10 years to develop. In its early stages, it can be cured 100% of the time, often with simple office procedures

The National Breast and Cervical cancer Early Detection Program 

Cervical cancer is largely preventable if it is detected early.

Cervical cancer rates are higher among older women; however, cervical intraepithelial neoplasia (or CIN), the precursor lesion to cervical cancer, most often occurs among young women.

Minority populations and persons of low socioeconomic status are affected disproportionately as well. For more information on cervical cancer and specific populations

Studies that have identified risk factors associated with cervical cancer have shown that cervical cancer is closely linked to

  • failure to receive regular Pap test screening
  • human papillomavirus (HPV) infection
  • certain sexual behaviors (see paragraph below)
  • immunosuppressive disorders such as HIV/AIDS

Experts agree that infection with certain strains of the HPV is one of the strongest risk factors for cervical cancer. The sexual behaviors specifically associated with greater risk are intercourse at an early age, multiple male sexual partners, and sex with a male partner who has had multiple sexual partners. Experts also agree that one of the most important things women can do to reduce their risk of cervical cancer is to receive regular screening with a Pap test.

Bethesda 2001 updates the earlier Bethesda System, first published in 1989 and revised in 1991. The 2001 version reflects the most current knowledge about the biology of Pap test abnormalities and addresses new screening technologies that appeared in the past decade. The 2001 Bethesda System does not itself include guidelines for managing these abnormalities. However, it serves as the basis for new management guidelines that appear in companion articles (i.e., 2001 Consensus Guidelines for the Management of Women With Cervical Cytological Abnormalities and 2001 Bethesda System: Terminology for Reporting Results of Cervical Cytology) in the Journal of the American Medical Association, Volume 287, No. 16, April 24, 2002. The articles can be accessed at the following Web site: http://jama.ama-assn.org/.* The guidelines were developed under the sponsorship of the American Society for Colposcopy and Cervical Pathology (ASCCP) in tandem with the 2001 Bethesda System. For a additional information, please see links below.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has in place an independent panel of experts in primary care and disease prevention called the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (1996). This task force systematically reviews the evidence of effectiveness and develops recommendations for clinical preventive services. Currently, the task force recommends routine screening for cervical cancer for all women who are or have been sexually active and who have a cervix:

  • Pap testing should begin with the onset of sexual activity.
  • Pap testing should be repeated at least every 3 years.

Many organizations, including the American Cancer Society, National Cancer Institute, American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and others also recommend that Pap testing should

  • begin annually at the onset of sexual activity or at age 18 and
  • continue less frequently at the discretion of the doctor and patient after three or more annual tests have been normal.

Source:  American Cancer Society, 2002.



Edited 4/18/2003 12:14:37 PM ET by LG_Wise

What people have a problem with is the gynocologist telling the poster that black women contract HPV more than white women because black women are more promiscious.  The fact is 80% of the adult sexually active population has HPV.

I would bet YOU have HPV right now. 

Cut the "lack of healthcare access" bullshyt. Our government spends $35 billion each year providing FREE HEALTH SCREENING SERVICES just for women. Your agrument predates the 1992 congressional mandate which says each state, using State and Federal monies, MUST PROVIDE cancer screening services to women without insurance AT NO COST. Turn off that bootyass shaking music AND make C-Span your channel of choice!


The National Breast and Cervical cancer Early Detection Program

Program Contacts

To find out where you can get a FREE or low-cost mammogram and Pap test, contact your local breast and cervical cancer program by using the links below, or by calling 1-888-842-6355 (select option 7). Age and income requirements vary.

To access information on a specific state, territory or program and to find out where you can get a free or low-cost mammogram and Pap smear test, click below. You may also view a complete list of contacts.

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Edited 4/18/2003 12:09:25 PM ET by LG_Wise

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