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Valerie1981
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Date: 11/10/2008 11:10:57 AM
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I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character from the first book. HUH?! I don't get it people have been writing her for 10+ years practically begging her to follow up with a book about Winter and her younger sister and when she finally does she decides on Midnight. I'm sorry but I'm very disappointed. Of course I bought the book cause I wasn't not gonna buy it and of course so far so great but I think people are more interested about the girls rather than him at this point.

The book is new so I don't know if there are any people who've finished it but if someone has can you please drop me a hint. Will she mention where the girls are today? Is there a mention of another book at the end of this book?

I'M SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST. I COULDN'T SEE THE THREAD WHEN I REFRESHED MY SCREEN AND THOUGHT I DID SOMETHING WRONG SO I DID IT AGAIN, SORRY.

Edited by Valerie1981 on November 10, 2008 12:58:53 PM

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blackharlemnow
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 11:14:31 AM
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in Reply To : I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

I also think it was a dumb move b/c most of the fans of the first book were young women who probably usually read books with a female point of view. When I found this book was about Midnight, I didn't even bother to buy it.

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lovie_dovie31
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 12:15:33 PM
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in Reply To : I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

What a disapointment......I'm not buying that shyt!!

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sweetalicia
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 12:22:52 PM
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in Reply To : I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

I'm still planning on picking it up for reading on one of these holiday breaks along with Dutch III and EJD's new one Dying for Revenge.

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NLightnMe
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 12:25:20 PM
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in Reply To : I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

I think I read CWE about 3 times back to back thinking it was going to somehow become Part 2. I am disappointed to find out that the sequel is about Midnight. But keep hope alive maybe she's just giving us a full background about Midnight first before she get to what folks really want to know about, Winter. I agree nobody gives a dam about Midnight but at the end she did start adding him in to the story a lot more?? I'm still going to get the book because its got to have some chapters on Winter.

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MustardSeeds
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 12:42:35 PM
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Wait, it's been a minute since reading the book but wasn't winter's little sister adopted by Midnight and his new wife?

I'm picking it up no matter what. I believe Souljah is such an incredibly visual writer than this will no doubt be just as good but from a male's perspective.

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I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

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Valerie1981
To : MustardSeeds

Date: 11/10/2008 01:31:04 PM
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in Reply To : Wait, it's been a minute since reading the book but wasn't winter's little sister adopted by Midnight and his new wife? I'm picking it up no matter what. I believe Souljah is such an incredibly visual writer than this will no doubt be...

I don't remember. I've haven't read CWE in over 10 years. I have to reread it. The last thing I remember is the sister getting out of some fancy car. I don't remember Midnight taking her in.

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cassfox
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 01:45:33 PM
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in Reply To : I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

I don't know...I'm torn a lil bit, because I think the beauty of CWE was that it had alot of mini-novellas in the story...and Winter's transitions were discussed so thoroughly, I felt as if Winter developed into at least three people. That's one thing I loved about the book.

AND I think Midnight was certainly becoming a central character but had alot of stuff unsaid that I wanted to know about, so I kind of follow Sister's logic in making him the sequel.

Also, I'm sure she wanted to pull in the male audience and there wasn't much left to tell about Winter that would pull them in, IMHO.

But I do see where it would have made sense to continue where the book stopped, I just don't know if it had enough "meat" to make a second novel.

I think sometimes writers claim that the characters kind of write themselves, so maybe she started with the intent to satisfy the masses but Midnight's character was really "calling" her as opposed to Winter...*shrugs*

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MustardSeeds
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 01:47:33 PM
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Here's a review, not good. I guess I'll read this one at the library. Damn.

Reviewer: B.

Huge Disappointment

OK..I said I would be finish by today. I am barely half way through. It seemed to pick up by 4th chapter then quickly dropped. It is so boring, I am forcing myself finish book because I paid for it. Borrow or rent this book. This work is a huge drop from Winter. I felt like I was reading a Sister Souljah Lecture on African Culture.

Edited by MustardSeeds on November 10, 2008 01:48:02 PM

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sheisalilvain
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 02:12:09 PM
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in Reply To : I don't remember. I've haven't read CWE in over 10 years. I have to reread it. The last thing I remember is the sister getting out of some fancy car. I don't remember Midnight taking her in.

If I remember correctly, he adopted the twins. It was the other sister that was getting out of the nice car with her dope dealing man...

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Valerie1981
To : sheisalilvain

Date: 11/10/2008 02:59:13 PM
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in Reply To : If I remember correctly, he adopted the twins. It was the other sister that was getting out of the nice car with her dope dealing man...

You are absolutely right. I forgot there were other younger siblings. Oh, please S. Souljah has plenty of meat for a 2nd story. And if she wanted to tell Midnights story she coulda added it in as the twins talk about their lives with him and his wife cause God knows those little kids have got to be in their mid-teens by now. There are so many avenues that she could went. I don't care how many pages the book would've been. What is she thinking? What are people in her circle telling her?

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sheisalilvain
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 03:07:51 PM
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in Reply To : You are absolutely right. I forgot there were other younger siblings. Oh, please S. Souljah has plenty of meat for a 2nd story. And if she wanted to tell Midnights story she coulda added it in as the twins talk about their lives with him and his...

I know you said you haven't fininshed reading it but has there been any mention of the girls so far? I'm hoping that she pulls an Eric Jerome Dickey and comes out with another book in a few months to help the story along. Only time will tell though...

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Valerie1981
To : sheisalilvain

Date: 11/10/2008 03:23:00 PM
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in Reply To : I know you said you haven't fininshed reading it but has there been any mention of the girls so far? I'm hoping that she pulls an Eric Jerome Dickey and comes out with another book in a few months to help the story along. Only time will tell...

Honey I'm on page 27. Midnight hasn't even transformed into the sexy beast described in CWE. He's only 7 years old and just bought himself his first set of guns. =(

I'm not gonna cuss Souljah but dang it dang it dang it. She really went back in regards to him. I will keep folks posted if the girls make an appearance. Maybe the brotha will flash forward midstream.

OFF TOPIC: you know the new EDJ book is coming out in like 2 weeks Dying for Revenge.

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sheisalilvain
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 03:27:22 PM
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in Reply To : Honey I'm on page 27. Midnight hasn't even transformed into the sexy beast described in CWE. He's only 7 years old and just bought himself his first set of guns. =( I'm not gonna cuss Souljah but dang it dang it dang it. She really went back in...

Hmm...with that bit of news, I'm seeing another book in the near future. CWE was her story, this one is his, the next one they'll reunite? LOL

RE: OT - Yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss! I have it on order at the library and I'm #2 on the waiting list. I'm anxious to see what is going to become of Gideon.

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Valerie1981
To : sheisalilvain

Date: 11/10/2008 03:40:26 PM
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in Reply To : Hmm...with that bit of news, I'm seeing another book in the near future. CWE was her story, this one is his, the next one they'll reunite? LOL RE: OT - Yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss! I have it on order at the library and I'm #2 on the waiting list. I'm...

I hope so cause I have so much hope for the Santiaga children.

OT: EDJ is killing it right now. Sleeping and Waking were my favorite by him thus far. I was rooting for all three characters. I ain't one to share but I couldn't see them going their seperate ways. I think I read that this book is a prequel to the previous 2.

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yurgurl345
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 04:09:43 PM
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in Reply To : Honey I'm on page 27. Midnight hasn't even transformed into the sexy beast described in CWE. He's only 7 years old and just bought himself his first set of guns. =( I'm not gonna cuss Souljah but dang it dang it dang it. She really went back in...

I just don't understand how a writer can pen a sequel without focusing on the character(s) that readers clearly loved/hated the most?

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SWEETNAKIA
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 04:17:40 PM
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in Reply To : I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

I pass on the book.....I rather disfigure Winter and her greedy goldigger sister who with that drug dealer.....living the same dumb life like her sister and mother.......didn't learn a thing

IT WAS NEVER THE GREATEST BOOK

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Valerie1981
To : SWEETNAKIA

Date: 11/10/2008 04:35:34 PM
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in Reply To : I pass on the book ... ..I rather disfigure Winter and her greedy goldigger sister who with that drug dealer.....living the same dumb life like her sister and mother.......didn't learn a thing IT WAS NEVER THE GREATEST BOOK

I'm not saying its the greatest regular novel ever penned. No. I'm talking about in regards to strictly street novels it IS the greatest. Look at these authors today talking about the drug game and living the high life. Those books are crap. The grammar and spelling errors alone make it crap. True to the Game is number 2 in my opinion. But, it was Sister Souljah who laid the foundation for today's street authors to flourish. There is no other street novel more celebrated than hers. Its a classic.

Girl, how you not learn anything? The lesson was clear as day....JUST SAY NO! =)

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jadedragon2525
To : Valerie1981

Date: 11/10/2008 05:08:01 PM
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in Reply To : I have a serious bone to pick with SIster Souljah. She's finally penned the sequel to the GREATEST street novel in existence, The Coldest Winter Ever. The new book is called MIDNIGHT. Yeah, she wrote the sequel squarely around another character...

I'd be interested in reading this story....and I think it's a great idea to make a spin-off on Midnight's character since we knew a lot about his history but we didn't really "know" him in the first book.

I'll admit...I never heard of this book outside of the BV boards. And, yes, I am an avid reader (I majored in English...my fav authors are Toni Morrison and Amy Tan among others).

Folks hyped this book up like it was just the best thing, and I was disappointed after I read it. To me, it's typical urban pulp fiction - it was well written, and the storylines were interesting, but I would not call it great literature.

However, I do think it would be a good movie if it were ever turned into a screenplay.

~The Poster Formally Known as JadeDragon~

...after 7 years you'd think I'd be used to this....