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Bob Marley and Reggae Music(45)

Discussion started on  07/18/2004 06:18:35 AM  by  RLW1967
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You know, it's a funny thing, but it seemed like white people embraced reggae music first, long before WE did and that's a damn shame!! Bob Marley and the Wailers were selling out shows in Germany and England while we were too busy shaking our asses to disco....and then we picked up on it later.

I prefer Bob's reggae and that of the old school than to the dancehall stuff by Sean Paul and those other guys who are making music now...

~The Commodores, 1975~

Come on, yall...I'm waiting on that REUNION!!

Show me a place where dreams are for dreamers, and all the things you wish for come true...I wish the world had all happy people, then there'd be no more wishing to do.

I think they embraced it because it was a continuation of the Marijuana culture from the 60's.

The music is awesome, but I think when Bob Marley was at his height.  Black folk in America was into the Parliament Funkadelic and Funk bands at that time.

 

Europeans to this day praise our old school veterans while here in the US, they are refered as "has-beens." They may be has beens but what they have is more than what today's artists have.

"You may be bad...but you ain't half the man yo momma was."

Europeans to this day praise our old school veterans while here in the US, they are refered as "has-beens." They may be has beens but what they have is more than what today's artists have.

I agree with you totally! Overseas they don't forget the old school artists, and will give them their props...which is why artists like Cheryl Lynn ("Got To Be Real"), Lionel Richie, Cameo, Angela Bofill and others can have sell-out tours over there and have a tremendous following in Europe and Japan. Here their careers are considered to be dead but they are hot over there....

On the subject of Bob and the Wailers, like Leobabe said we were more into the funk bands during that period...I remember my girlfriend used to play her father's reggae albums (Bob's EXODUS was one of them) and I would tell her to turn it off and play some Parliament or the Commodores...I wasn't trying to hear reggae back then and this was the late '70s...

~The Commodores, 1975~

Come on, yall...I'm waiting on that REUNION!!

Show me a place where dreams are for dreamers, and all the things you wish for come true...I wish the world had all happy people, then there'd be no more wishing to do.

not so.. back in the days whitey was able to travel more than us and was exposed to different types of music reggae in general. the rolling stones recorded their first 5 albums in Jamaica, keith richards has been known to venture out to the outskirts of town and jam with locals. Stones were one of the only bands to pubically give praise to chuck berry & bo diddley for the artform called rock & roll.
It's was all about the message back then with peter tosh, jimmy cliff, and toots. Look at the music style of the Police in the 80's there is no way you can't tell me their isn't a reggae influence in those songs

i think also, that reggae music, although often political in message, embraces the spirit of :"one love", in essence, love without color

also, the ganja references were attractive

marley spoke of fighting oppression, spiritual upliftment, and social revolution

its a shame but at times, i feel that there are white people more interested in that stuff than blacks

but in any event, ONE LOVE is at the core of reggae music and its purpose is to unite all people, regardless of race

it was very hippy-ish

 

 

That's true. Europe has been the bread and butter for many american artist who's hits have tried up  at home.

 

its a shame but at times, i feel that there are white people more interested in that stuff than blacks

^5!

~The Commodores, 1975~

Come on, yall...I'm waiting on that REUNION!!

Show me a place where dreams are for dreamers, and all the things you wish for come true...I wish the world had all happy people, then there'd be no more wishing to do.

I believe that.
Umm...the ONE LOVE message has been skewed, as it is commercially agreeable. One Love, initially, to bring an end to the political violence that marred/mars PM elections in Jamaica; One Love to defeat poverty and uplift the disenfranchised (in that region and throughout the diaspora) so that those people of the world are included under the umbrella of community spirt; One Love toward self-determination and indeginous progress.

When Bob Marley brought on stage (during The One Love Concert in JA) Michael Manley and Edward Seaga, leaders of the combustible opposing political parties in election year 1978 and joined their hands in symbolic unification THAT was ONE LOVE.

Unfortunately exposure was and continues to be the problem for more AAs to experience reggae music.  If you can't see it, and can't hear it doesn't mean its not there, its just, the exposure has not been there in quantity as you see now.  Now Black people are more in tuned with reggae than ever.  In the 70s, and during Marley's days the exposure was far different.  American Blacks were too strung out on funk and r&b, not that anything was wrong with that but, reggae was miles and eons ahead sonically and consciously,and had implemented something funk & r&b could not, truth & rights.  Sure America had its Marvin Gayes, Isaac Hayes and Curtis Mayfields, but their messages were too far in between to make a strong difference. 

In reggae, from as early as 1960, strong political references, cultural, african and spiritual messages are consistent through that period up until Marley's passing.  After his passing, there was a strange assault on many artists of that generation in reggae.....so many died senselessy,

King Tubby, Tenor Saw, Peter Tosh, Nitty Gritty, Jacob Miller, Hugh Mundell, so many and they were young up coming stars in Jamaica.  But if you listen to that music of that period, it is still fresh, resounding and captivating.  Its the only music I'll purchase.  I like Sean Paul, but I'd never $ his music.  Jamaican music period has a very interesting history, and its time for Blacks to really big it up.

Rootsyd

Right now I'm digging Reggeaton.  It's like reggea and rap put together.  If you can get your hands on some good stuf you'd like it!

My head is high, my shoulders strong.  But my tolerance for your bullshit is weak.

 

i absolutely LOVE reggae music...almost had a fit when i found "third world's" cd with "forbidden love" on it...

i can't really get into the dancehall stuff...i like the ole skool reggae (if ole skool is the correct term)

admittedly i do like buju's music, and i still like to listen to chaka demus and pliers, but for the most part i prefer the marley's, beres hammond, burning spear, and oh too many to name...

"sing to me javee in slooooww motion"

great musician--Javier Colon--buy it!!!

Proverbs 19:21
Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.

that's true...

"sing to me javee in slooooww motion"

great musician--Javier Colon--buy it!!!

Proverbs 19:21
Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.

^5

"sing to me javee in slooooww motion"

great musician--Javier Colon--buy it!!!

Proverbs 19:21
Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.

I wasn't turned on to Bob Marley until the early 80's, and once you go there, you never go back.  :-D

There are several good books out on Marley, Catch a fire for one, and one other.. that I cannot remember the name of but remember the distinctly green cover .... got them.. then had to go on to books on Marcus Garvey, Frederick Douglas and Haile Selassie, Rastafarian religion in order to understand the deeper meanings of his music.

One Love, Unity, Peace, stop the downpression!

No more trouble.....

Make love and not war! 'Cause we don't need no trouble.
What we need is love (love)
To guide and protect us on. (on)
If you hope good down from above, (love)
Help the weak if you are strong now. (love)

Of course you can't help but to expand to Buju, Beenie, TOK, Baby Cham, Lady Saw, Michael Rose, Beres Hammond, too too many to list  

My most treasured CD is the 4box set they released a few years back "Songs of Freedom".. the early ska years to the roots of later years.

Marley's music will continue to live for a long long time.

I don't know if this is true or not. I've heard when Marley joined hands with Manley and Seaga and bolt of lightning occurred at that moment.

That music is incredibly deep

I love Third World's "Rock The World" album.

From:  MsAllen40   Jul-20 3:25 pm 
To:  RLW1967  
   

Right now I'm digging Reggeaton.  It's like reggea and rap put together.  If you can get your hands on some good stuf you'd like it!

reggaeton is not original. it's just sung in spanish. jamaincan (now dancehall) artists--toasters, originally--invented the chat and riddim. reggaeton is recycled music beginning with El General...and what's unfortunate is that certain cultures will take reinvention and mistake it for seminal. i recently read an article about reggae's japanese explosion, and well, while there are many fans in that country who know and appreciate the source culture, their are others who are coming up listening to japanense reggae imitators who give no credit--unabashedly--and claim that music as they do kabuke.

Yes. It is deep. I'm talking about the older music. Music of Marley and The Wailers (people seem to forget them sometimes) generation. There are some artists today, Morgan Heritage, Anthony B., reformed Buju..others I'm omitting still carrying the torch but Marley, Dennis Brown, Peter Tosh and that ilk set the standard.

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