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I don't know why these stories are always framed with the Black kids being desperate for acceptance???? Forget the damn white prom. Who wants to listen to Avril Levine all damn night anyway? And why is only one of the Black girls in the pic smiling????
![]() A Prom DividedAbout now, high-school seniors everywhere slip into a glorious sort of limbo. Waiting out the final weeks of the school year, they begin rightfully to revel in the shared thrill of moving on. It is no different in south-central Georgia’s Montgomery County, made up of a few small towns set between fields of wire grass and sweet onion. The music is turned up. Homework languishes. The future looms large. But for the 54 students in the class of 2009 at Montgomery County High School, so, too, does the past. On May 1 — a balmy Friday evening — the white students held their senior prom. And the following night — a balmy Saturday — the black students had theirs. Racially segregated proms have been held in Montgomery County — where about two-thirds of the population is white — almost every year since its schools were integrated in 1971. Such proms are, by many accounts, longstanding traditions in towns across the rural South, though in recent years a number of communities have successfully pushed for change. When the actor Morgan Freeman offered to pay for last year’s first-of-its-kind integrated prom at Charleston High School in Mississippi, his home state, the idea was quickly embraced by students — and rejected by a group of white parents, who held a competing “private” prom. (The effort is the subject of a documentary, “Prom Night in Mississippi,” which will be shown on HBO in July.) The senior proms held by Montgomery County High School students — referred to by many students as “the black-folks prom” and “the white-folks prom” — are organized outside school through student committees with the help of parents. All students are welcome at the black prom, though generally few if any white students show up. The white prom, students say, remains governed by a largely unspoken set of rules about who may come. Black members of the student council say they have asked school administrators about holding a single school-sponsored prom, but that, along with efforts to collaborate with white prom planners, has failed. According to Timothy Wiggs, the outgoing student council president and one of 21 black students graduating this year, “We just never get anywhere with it.” Principal Luke Smith says the school has no plans to sponsor a prom, noting that when it did so in 1995, attendance was poor. Students of both races say that interracial friendships are common at Montgomery County High School. Black and white students also date one another, though often out of sight of judgmental parents. “Most of the students do want to have a prom together,” says Terra Fountain, a white 18-year-old who graduated from Montgomery County High School last year and is now living with her black boyfriend. “But it’s the white parents who say no. … They’re like, if you’re going with the black people, I’m not going to pay for it.” “It’s awkward,” acknowledges JonPaul Edge, a senior who is white. “I have as many black friends as I do white friends. We do everything else together. We hang out. We play sports together. We go to class together. I don’t think anybody at our school is racist.” Trying to explain the continued existence of segregated proms, Edge falls back on the same reasoning offered by a number of white students and their parents. “It’s how it’s always been,” he says. “It’s just a tradition.” Earlier this month, on the Friday night of the white prom, Kera Nobles, a senior who is black, and six of her black classmates drove over to the local community center where it was being held. Standing amid a crowd of about 80 parents, siblings and grandparents, they snapped pictures and whooped appreciatively as their white friends — blow-dried, boutonniered and glittering in a way that only high-school seniors can — did their “senior walk,” parading in elegant pairs into the prom. “We got stared at a little, being there,” said one black student, “but it wasn’t too bad.” After the last couple were announced, after they watched the white people’s father-daughter dance and then, along with the other bystanders, were ushered by chaperones out the door, Kera and her friends piled into a nearby KFC to eat. Whatever elation they felt for their dressed-up classmates was quickly wearing off. “My best friend is white,” said one senior girl, a little glumly. “She’s in there. She’s real cool, but I don’t understand. If they can be in there, why can’t everybody else?” The seven teenagers — a mix of girls and boys — slowly worked their way through two buckets of fried chicken. They cracked jokes about the white people’s prom (“I feel bad for them! Their prom is lame!”). They puzzled merrily over white girls’ devotion both to tanning beds (“You don’t like black people, but you’re working your hardest to get as brown as I am!”) and also to the very boys who were excluded from the dance (“Half of those girls, when they get home, they’re gonna text a black boy”). They mused about whether white parents really believed that by keeping black people out of the prom, it would keep them out of their children’s lives (“You think there aren’t going to be black boys at college?”). And finally, more somberly, they questioned their white friends’ professed helplessness in the face of their parents’ prejudice (“You’re 18 years old! You’re old enough to smoke, drive, do whatever else you want to. Why aren’t you able to step up and say, ‘I want to have my senior prom with the people I’m graduating with?’ ”). It was getting late now. KFC was closing. Another black teenager was mopping the floor...[Message truncated]
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"I don't know why these stories are always framed with
the Black kids being desperate for acceptance????"
Because BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS the ones whining and moaning about "others" being exclusive while ignoring the fact that people are just more comfortable around thier own kind...NO ONE knows this better than black people...we are the some of the most self-segregating group of people on the planet yet and still we want to criticize others for doing the exact same thing and accuse them of being RACIST. IT'S BULLSHAT! My fantasy man ![]() ![]() |
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Why don't these kids try to enjoy each OTHER music, dance and styling and just have a good time together. And why don't ADULT makes their selfish, immature tails realize that the world does NOT begin and end with what their FUNKYA$SES think, feel and want to do all the time. And I mean that for both the Black AND the White foks involved here? I mean, really, would it KILL the Black kids to try to dance to Green Peace and the White kids to party to Kanye? DAMN! |
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Naw, you're wrong here. Black people can't be both self-segregating AND desperate to be around whites. The segregating COMES from a history of a lack of acceptance. So it's natural for people who have be marginalized to stick together. Plus, how you define "own kind" is subjective. I've WITNESSED diverse proms work, and none of the kids seemed tense or uncomfortable in a mixed racial environment. This is nothing but a culture that White southerners don't want to die out. Plus, if folks were comfortable with their own kind, why are them white dudes in your siggy? Comfort is not cut and dry. Even one of the white girls in the article is shacked up with a black dude, so clearly she would have been comfortable dancing with him at prom. My bottom line is f*ck the white prom. If I were at their school I would just do what i can to make sure the white prom doesn't get any more money than ours did. Other than that I wouldn't be sulking over that.
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NO ONE knows this better than black people...we are the some of the most self-segregating
group of people on the planet yet and still we want to criticize others
for doing the exact same thing and accuse them of being RACIST. IT'S BULLSHAT
I'm not real familiar with you, however whenever I see this RED font it always seems to be some thread, some post involving racial issues. Let me tell you YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! on this matter. I'm sure someone will "school" me a little bit more on your character, But It seems to me like you are the "official" APOLOGIST for Whi-folks. There is a "Distinct" difference between "SEGRAGATING" and "SEGRAGATED". Black folks practice segragating to save their asses, economic and social survival as well. Segragating(as you put it )in the black community) is an involuntary reaction to the environment that surrounds you. SEGRATED is when you "Voluntarily decide to "Exclude" members of another society, race etc,. from your group, based on antiquated or outmoded ideas etc. If you read your own article, you'd see that the kids(Both Black and white) intimated how they were able to function(amicably) in the school, yet the races were kept apart/separated at these social events. Your ATTEMPT to put the problem with this situation on Black folks is VERY SILLY. IF the school, or the (White) parents wanted to end this practice, it could be ended IMMEDIATELY. It's 2009 for goodness sakes! I hope 1- day, if nothing else, the kids rise-up and tell their parents that this practice of having separate Proms is- (in your words)- BULLSHAT! Honestly, I can't believe seggregated proms are still being held. But then again, when you read where this is happening (Deep South, rural area), it stands to reason. You should really get your head out your (you know what) when it comes to racial matters and whi-folks. Let me ask you this- If they offered a FREE-PROM FOR ALL- all the bells and whistles, who do you think would keep their kids away? Hmm? The Black Parents or the Whi- parents? The "ONUS" on changing these "Archaic" practices is on the school and the parents of these Whi- kids. trying to pen this on the Black folks in this town is "stupid" logic. Who do you think was the FIRST to have a prom "EXCLUDING THE OTHER RACE? Hmm? There's a "Distinct" difference between Segregating and SEGRAGATED. |
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THAT'S THE PROBLEM! Kids (Mostly BLACK KIDS) simply don't want to enjoy music, styling, etc from other cultures .Now i will say that the WHITE kids are and would be A LOT MORE accommodating and accepting to "black music" but are the BLACK kids willing to do the same. HELL NAAAAW.>>>> How would you know this? And nowadays Black and White kids for the most part are listening to the same damn thing. A high school prom will likely play the same junk they listen to on MTV and BET. White people aren't more "accommodating". If they were, you wouldn't have a article to post in this thread to begin with. You're a mess. ![]() |
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I really don't understand whats going on here. Proms generally arent regulated by the schools that much. you have a faculty adviser but the class is in charge of raising the money to have a prom. In that regard, the blacks (as members of the class) should be allowed to attend. My high school was only 3% black so it wouldve been ridiculous to have a segregated prom. But these people are on some other stuff....we had a few chaperones, but we didn't have parents at our prom. What kind of mess is that? The prom in this article sounds more like a debutante ball or something. If thats the case, then they can have a segregated affair and theres nothing anybody can do about it. Where I'm from, all of the cotillions,beautillions, carnival balls,etc are almost always segregated. Blacks have theres...and the whites have their own. When it came to formals that are related to school (Homecoming dance, prom,etc) they were integrated. This event in the article sounds like its not really a prom.
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LOL....
Plus, if folks were comfortable with their own kind, why are them white dudes in your siggy?
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I dont know if i"m more upset about the segregated prom or about the writer of this article and her word choices in perpetuating sterotypes. these things being said in the article are ridiculous to me. Kera and her friends piled into a nearby KFC to eat. slowly worked their way through two buckets of fried chicken. Another black teenager was mopping the floor A couple of the boys mentioned they had to wash their cars in the morning. they would dress up and dance raucously for four hours before tumbling back outside Kera had an early morning hair appointment I'm reading this like WTF? was all that necessary to be said? |
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I'm sure in some of these smaller towns, the parents have much more influence over these types of affairs. This isn't the first time I've heard of this happen. I believe there was another case a few years ago in Alabama. IMO, ultimately even if the parents wanted to be involved the teens could change things if they wanted to. From the pics I saw they looked like a prom to me. The dresses sure were slutty enough, and all the pics of debutantes I saw growing up sure as hell didn't look like that! Anyway, I recently saw a documentary called The Order of Myths about the segregated Mardi Gras in Alabama. Not being from the south and being a 2nd/3rd gen American, that was a REAL eye opener. The wealthiest family in that town is descended from one the wealthiest plantation owner.
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LOL....yeah alot of that was unnecessary I dont know if i"m more upset about the segregated prom or about the writer of this article and her word choices in perpetuating sterotypes. these things being said in the article are ridiculous to me. Kera and her friends piled into a nearby KFC to eat. slowly worked their way through two buckets of fried chicken. Another black teenager was mopping the floor A couple of the boys mentioned they had to wash their cars in the morning. they would dress up and dance raucously for four hours before tumbling back outside Kera had an early morning hair appointment I'm reading this like WTF? was all that necessary to be said?
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