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Obama pastor got him in trouble(134)

Discussion started on 03/13/2008 03:22:45 PM by 3rdworldorder

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3rdworldorder
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:22:45 PM
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Oh it done hit the fan now, the press is coming full steam after obama now. He is gonna end up having to cut rev wright to appease white america.

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The controversial pastor who inspired the title of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s autobiography has been videotaped invoking racial slurs while discussing Hillary Clinton.

In the video, available on YouTube, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fierce Obama supporter, delivers a sermon about how Clinton cannot relate to American black culture like Obama does.

“Hillary ain’t never been called a [n-expletive]!” Wright fumes.

The following is a full transcription of Wright’s remarks about Clinton, which begin at the 49 second mark.

“ Folks are hatin’ on Barack Obama. He doesn’t fit the mold, he ain’t white, he ain’t privileged. Hillary fits the mold. Europeans fits the mold. Giuliani fits the mold. Rich, white men fit the mold. Hillary never had a cab whiz past her and not pick her up because her skin is the wrong color. Hillary never had to worry about being pulled over in her car as a black man. I am sick of Negros who just do not get it. Hillary was not a black boy raised in a single parent home, Barack was. Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people! Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain’t never been called a [n-expletive]. Hillary has never had her people defined as non-persons. Hillary ain’t had to work twice as hard just to get accepted by the rich, white folk who [indiscernible] everything just to get a passing grade when you know you are smarter than that C student sitting in the White House. Oh, I am so glad that I have a God who knows what it’s like to be a poor, black man in a country, in a culture that is controlled and run by rich, white people. He taught me, Jesus did, how to love my enemies. Jesus taught me how to love the hell out of my enemies and not be reduced to their level of hatred, bigotry and small-mindedness. Hillary ain’t never had people say she wasn’t white enough. Jesus had his own people siding with the enemy. That’s why I love Jesus, y’all. He never let their hatred dampen his hope.”

Obama has attended Wright’s south side Chicago church, the Trinity United Church of Christ, for the last 20 years and told reporters in the past he didn’t think there as “anything particularly controversial” about Wright.

Obama’s second best-selling autobiography “Audacity of Hope” and 2004 Democratic National Convention keynote speech was inspired by one of Wright’s sermons titled “Audacity of Hope.”

Good Morning America uncovered another controversial sermon delivered by Wright in a report Thursday. ABC’s Brian Ross said Wright delivered a speech in 2003 in which he said, “No, no, no, not ‘God Bless America” but “god damn America."

According to Ross, Wright said “The government gives them [African Americans] the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strikes law and then wants us to sing 'God bless America,' No, no, no, not 'God bless America,' God damn America -- that's in the Bible, you're killing innocent people, God damn America for treating us citizens as less than human."

Ross also says Wright told his congregation after 9/11: "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye...America's chickens are coming home to roost."

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3rdworldorder
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:24:51 PM
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Check out ABC view of pastor wright and some of his speeches. This is gonna make michelle obama remarks about america look like nothing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4443230

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owoda
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:26:03 PM
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i understand what these people are doing. are they really this stupid? on the heels of the geraldine mess, he comes out with this?

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blackmanx2006
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:28:38 PM
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it doesn’t matter what Obama does or says, white America is going to hold him accountable for all things deemed negative in the black community in the first place. If folk start to get paranoid over things his pastor says, then aren’t they the one’s running scared?

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ladygoldenspear
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:33:31 PM
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It's obvious. Some pissed off Hillary supporter scoured through Youtube to find an old sermon of Rev. Wright's in order to make some point I guess. I saw the video and I'm trying to figure what was so wrong about what he said. But of course white folks are going to get all riled up not taking into consideration that the situations are very different.

*looks at watch to see how long it will take for NappyRhino to disagree with my statements*

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Everybody Wu Shu tonight!!

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3rdworldorder
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:37:53 PM
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WTF! SMH

THIS IS A NIGHTMARE. THIS WILL BE OVER THE NETWORKS IN AN HOUR.

I love rev wright, I know he is kinda wild with the sermons, But boy is the white media gonna tar him and obama . Its not fair but this is still white america.

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addedtouchll
To : ladygoldenspear

Date: 03/13/2008 03:41:19 PM
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I agree, and who says Obama agrees with the Reverend. There are a lot of people that go to church but it don't mean they agree with and believe EVERYTHING their pastor says. For all they know Obama could have been shaking his head in shame at what the pastor said...they don't know. So I guess now if he doesn't stop going to the church that means he's a racist..SMH. I'm sure Hillary is very excited right about now.

BTW, I agree with you, the pastor ain't done nothing but tell the damn truth anyway.

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owoda
To : ladygoldenspear

Date: 03/13/2008 03:42:58 PM
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you're right, i think that speech is from 3 months ago

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agent2k38
To : ladygoldenspear

Date: 03/13/2008 03:43:51 PM
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THIS IS NOTHING NEW. OBAMA HAS DENOUNCED HIS PASTOR'S VIEWS IN JANUARY. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHIN OBAMA SHOULD WORRY ABOUT.

HE DIDNT CALL HILLARY A RACIST. HIS SERMON DISCUSSED LIFE AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN. MOST PEOPLE INCLUDING AL SHARPTON HAVE STATED SIMILAR REMARKS BUT NOT AS EXPLICIT. ALSO, WHY THE HELL WHITE FOLKS CONTINUE TO BELIEVE WE ALL THINK THE SAME AND HAVE THE SAME BELIEFE SYSTEM. ITS LIKE WALKING ON EGG SHELLS. OBAMA IF NECESSARY NEED TO SAY AGAIN HIS VIEWS DIFFER FROM HIS PASTOR'S AND THEY HE CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE ELSES.

IT MIGHT WORK TO GET BLACK TO THE POLLS.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

Edited by agent2k38 on March 13, 2008 03:48:52 PM

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zodyacaries
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:47:44 PM
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These niqqas are going off the deep end over every damn thang,I know their nerves have got to be shot to hell.Obama can't stop the white media from trying to destroy him,because that is the shyt they do.I bet he knew that when he ran he already spoke on Wright,white folkz just don't like to deal with the truth about racism.

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nsimone
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:51:04 PM
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http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1

I was on a liberal political discussion board. Some of his white supporters are questioning Obama's sincerity. Conservatives are the driving force beind this. There was a thread about Fox going to the church' s website and buying the sermons for the purpose of using it against him. This is a hot topic on onservative talk radio.

As much as blacks understand what Wright is saying, . whites do not. They know that Wright will retire in May and that Obama has spoken out against him. For alot that is not enough. According to them,Obama has been going fo that church for 20 years. They feel that he may have the same views. This what whites are saying. NOT ME

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3rdworldorder
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:58:40 PM
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.I bet he knew that when he ran he already spoke on Wright,white folkz just don't like to deal with the truth about racism.

I can guarantee rev wright warned obama that this very thing was gonna happen. that why you dont hear rev wright talk and one of the reasons he has been so quiet since retirement. I have been to his church and everything he says sound great and makes sense to us.

But the white media is not gonna see it that way. This will be used to make obama look like like some crazy radical who belongs to a militant church. Now we know better, but when it comes to black people white people arent that smart.

no let me change that the smart white people know that whites still fear black people. That terms "black power" are scary and remind them of the 60's. they know that even if obama does not agree with his pastor that as long as make it look like he agree than they will win.

they will say "see what rev wright said, so that where michelle got her feeling from about america, obama must hate america too"

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agent2k38
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Date: 03/13/2008 03:59:48 PM
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If anyone thinks Sean Hannity's a christian, they are either blind, deaf, or dumb.

JEREMIAH WRIGHT, CHICAGO TRINITY UNITED CHURCH: Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: That was video Fox obtained from Barack Obama's controversial spiritual adviser of more than 20 years, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Now, it seems that another preacher at Obama's church is also following in the pastor's footsteps.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REV. OTIS MOSS III, TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST: For anybody who is tuning in the video screen, who normally doesn't tune in, you're looking for something, Reverend Jane. What's up Hannity.

(

HANNITY: What's up, Hannity? And to make matters worse, the church is raising questions with the IRS because of how they're campaigning for Obama at the pulpit. We continue now with our panel. First of all, I will not let up on this issue, Jeanine Pirro. If his pastor went to Libya, Tripoli with Louis Farrakhan, a virulent, anti-Semitic racist, his church gave a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan. That's been Barack Obama's pastor for 20 years. And we will continue to expose this until somebody in the mainstream media has the courage to take this on. Do you agree this should be an issue?

• Click here: watch the panel discuss Obama's controversial preacher

JEANINE PIRRO, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL CANDIDATE: It's clearly ab issue. And I think the person who should be asked about it is Obama. Maybe he'll have the opportunity. Here's the bottom line, we can't all be responsible for what other people say.

HANNITY: His pastor, the one who inspired audacity of hope.

PIRRO: You know, I would venture a guess that a lot of people go to churches or synagogues don't agree with everything their preachers say. That's not the issue. They shouldn't be politicking from the pulpit. That's why the IRS is getting involved.

HANNITY: I don't want to talk about that. I want to go to Dee Dee Myers. Dee Dee, first of all, would you attend a church where your pastor traveled to Tripoli with Louis Farrakhan, that your church gave a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan? And would you call yourself friendly with a man from the Weather Underground who admits to bombing the Pentagon and the capital building, and said in 2001 he wished he had done more?

DEE DEE MYERS, AUTHOR, "WHY WOMEN SHOULD RULE THE WORLD": Sean, I'm not here to sit in Barack Obama's shoes.

HANNITY: I'm not asking you that. Would you go to a church — that's not fair. This is a simple question.

MYERS: I'm not going to get into saying what kind of church I would and wouldn't go to, Sean. I might not go to your church because I don't agree with you on things that are ...

HANNITY: I won't go to a church that's friends with a racist and an anti-Semite. Was so hard about saying that, Dee Dee?

MYERS: I think Senator Obama has dissociated himself or denounced.

HANNITY: That's weak. That's a weak answer.

MYERS: It's not a weak answer. And I think Jeanine Pirro is exactly right. We don't have to be held accountable for everything that is said by every one of our supporters if we're running for president, or by everything that is said by the pastor of our church.

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: And if that is Kate Obenshain, don't we have to hold — Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead Dee Dee. Finish up.

MYERS: What are you saying? Are you saying, Sean, that Senator Obama agrees with those sentiments? Is that the point that you're trying to make? That those are his sentiments?

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Obama has said they're not. He's been very clear. He's distanced himself from Farrakhan. Now Kate Obenshain, if you're going to hold Obama's pastor accountable for Obama, or hold him accountable for everything his pastor does, then we have to hold John McCain accountable for John Hagee, who has been denounced by the Catholic League for making anti-Catholic comments...

OBENSHAIN: No. Actually —

COLMES: ... called it a great whore, an apostate church, the anti-Christ and a false cult system, and John McCain is honored to receive that man's endorsement. So don't we have a double standard here?

OBENSHAIN: No, actually —

HANNITY: That's not his pastor.

OBENSHAIN: Actually, he said very clearly that —

COLMES: It's not a standard. It's someone he's honored to have the endorsement of.

OBENSHAIN: Ok. My turn. My turn! He said he does not endorse everything that everybody says who gives him money. I think the interesting point here is what Obama did say last week about Reverend Wright. He said that some of the things he said are considered controversial. It's very similar to what Obama said at the Ohio debate trying to avoid distancing himself from Louis Farrakhan.

COLMES: He did.

OBENSHAIN: YES. Obama wants it both ways. He does not want to lose the support of people who follow Farrakhan and Reverend Wright, but he doesn't want to be considered too close to them.

COLMES: He's been very clear —

OBENSHAIN: Well, you know what? When you're running for president, you have to take a stand and you have to say, I do not support those sort of views.

COLMES: Then shouldn't John McCain say he doesn't support the views of a man who makes anti-Catholic statements?

OBENSHAIN: He did, I believe. He said I'm not — I don't agree with everything — a

COLMES: And Obama says he does not support anti-Semitism, as expressed by Louis Farrakhan.

HANNITY: Leave the church.

OBENSHAIN: He very narrowly. Alan, he very narrowly distanced himself from the anti-Semitic comments.

COLMES: May I speak please? Jeanine, where do you stand on this.

PIRRO: I already answered him.

COLMES: What about John Hagee.

HANNITY: We've got five seconds.

PIRRO: Five seconds, hit me.

HANNITY: Yeah. Well, I would say leave the church and you agree with me.

PIRRO: I'm not saying leave the church. I'm saying come out and say what you think. It's like driver's license, no driver's license. Answer the question. They should all answer questions.

HANNITY: Alright.

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mstryn
To : blackmanx2006

Date: 03/13/2008 04:05:19 PM
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I agree, Infact, white folk that were looking for ANY excuse to reject Obama will use this against him, plus Wright and Farrakhan view's are too akin to one another. . ..and as you say, they will use anything negative that black folk do as a 'litmus test', to use against Obama. The black guy(s) that killed those two white college girls, are gonna be added as bagagge on Obama's back.

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browneyedblkgirl
To : 3rdworldorder

Date: 03/13/2008 04:05:48 PM
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Hillary does not want to touch this..

Oh, What the Hell.

Senator Clinton's pastor said some not-so-nice things, too:

In 1994, H.R. Haldeman's diaries revealed that Graham had taken part in conversations speaking of "Jewish domination of the media." The allegations were so at odds with Graham's public image that most did not believe his account, and Jewish groups paid little attention. Graham released a statement denying that he talked "publicly or privately about the Jewish people, including conversations with President Nixon, except in the most positive terms." He said, "Those are not my words." In 2002, however, newly declassified "Richard Nixon tapes" confirmed remarks made by Graham to President Nixon three decades earlier. Captured on the tapes, Graham agreed with Nixon that Jews control the American media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with Nixon. "This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," said Graham, agreeing with Nixon's comments about Jews and their influence in American life. Later, Graham mentions that he has friends in the media who are Jewish, including A.N. Rosenthal, saying they "swarm around me and are friendly to me." But, he tells Nixon, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country."

On balance, I think this game of who-said-what is stupid. But if its gotta be played, it should be played fairly.

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3rdworldorder
To : nsimone

Date: 03/13/2008 04:07:01 PM
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As much as blacks understand what Wright is saying, . whites do not.

This makes me say is harder to be a black candidate F what hillary says. Does a white candidate have to answer for thier support from people like pat robertson or farwell. Has the media focused in mccain and Rev hagee who made extreme negative comments about catholics .

Does a white candidate have to answer question about farrakhan cause the man said " i think he is a good man" .

to this moment no body has asked her did you support the million man march since she wants to use her time as first lady as experience.

Does a female candidate get questioned about being the "affrimative action candidate"

this is crazy

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wedesiretruth1
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Date: 03/13/2008 04:07:45 PM
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if white folks r lookin for any excuse...y is he winning the popular vote..y is he winning the delegate vote...now u say he gonna be blamed for murder...lol

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hitdabriks
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Date: 03/13/2008 04:09:24 PM
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I wish that the mainstream media would bring up Hannity's association with Hal Turner:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050620/blumenthal/2

During an August 1998 episode of the show, Turner reminded Hannity that were it not for the graciousness of the white man, "black people would still be swinging on trees in Africa," according to Daryle Jenkins, co-founder of the New Jersey-based antiracism group One People's Project. Instead of rebuking Turner or cutting him off, Hannity continued to welcome his calls. On December 10 of the following year, Turner called Hannity's show to announce his campaign to run for a seat in the US House of Representatives from New Jersey, and to attack his presumptive opponent, Democratic Representative Robert Menendez, as a "left-wing nut."

By this time, according to Jenkins, Turner and Hannity had bonded off-air. In 1998 Hannity received an anonymous e-mail linking to an AOL discussion board on which Turner had allegedly confessed to a cocaine problem and alluded to past homosexual trysts. Turner (or someone claiming to be Turner) wrote in an August 4, 1998, Google discussion forum that Hannity called him to clear the air: "Just last week, Sean phoned me at home from his job at FOX News to continue a conversation we'd begun earlier while he was at WABC," Turner wrote. "Sean advised that one of you sensitive souls sent him an e-mail about 'revelations I had made' here on the internet. He told me it was obviously and [sic] attempt to 'poison the water.' " Turner continued, "I told him that I've done things I'm not proud of, and had dark times in my life; and those experiences helped shape the way I live today...the right way. He [Hannity] laughed and commented that he knew the feeling." Turner added that such chats with Hannity were "not unusual," often occurring while Hannity held his calls during commercial breaks.

Jenkins told me that while he and a group of antiracism activists demonstrated against a July 17, 2003, National Alliance meeting in Elmwood Park, New Jersey, which Turner attended, he encountered Turner and asked him about his relationship with Hannity. Turner claimed that he and Hannity would talk by phone and even recounted that Hannity had once invited him and his son on to the set of Hannity and Colmes. "In my view," says Jenkins, "I think Hannity has helped Turner out quite a bit. I'm willing to bet most of the conversations they had consisted of them talking shop."

Today, as one of America's most recognizable broadcast personalities, Hannity vehemently denounces racism as he sees it. During the 2000 presidential campaign, Hannity demanded time and again that Al Gore fire his black campaign manager, Donna Brazile, for her comment that "we're not gonna let the white boys win." Two years later, during California's gubernatorial recall election, Hannity repeatedly attacked Democratic candidate and Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante as a racist for refusing to renounce his association thirty years prior with the Chicano student group MECHA. Yet Hannity is silent about the racist affiliations of favored guests like Family Research Council president Tony Perkins, Mississippi Republican Governor Haley Barbour and former Republican Congressman Bob Barr, all of whom have spoken before gatherings of America's largest white supremacist group, the Council of Conservative Citizens.

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FahimMuhammad57
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Date: 03/13/2008 04:15:16 PM
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As long as the Obamessiah has Rev. Wright as his religious advisor, this issue is not going to die. All of you can cry unfairness and racism if you want, and yes there is some of that here. The fact of the matter is that the Obamessiah has to get as far from Rev. Wright as he can. He cannot have him anywhere near his campaign as he does now.

You can tell the character of a man by how he treats those that can do nothing for him.