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Discussion started on  03/05/2006 03:37:03 PM  by 
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Brokeback mountain,as hollywood heads into the oscars tonight I am sincerly hoping that iut get none of the major awards and in starting this discussion I want to ask and say,what is the difference between one deviant sexual preference from another? whats the difference between gay culture and Pedophilic culture?  between gay culture and Beastiality culture? Deviance is deviance plain and simple,and I for one do not applaud hollywood in its efforts to Push gay culture as something mainstream,as something normal when it is not! Id like to see a focus by hollywood on the real gay culture the turmoil it causes in families,the turmoil it causes in communities,the dangers it has created in communities via disease! its time to stop painting the gay lifestyle like its the american dream or something but thats my take! what do you think BV?

 whats the difference between gay culture and Pedophilic culture?  between gay culture and Beastiality culture?

 

The difference is that gay sex is consensual...........

 

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so youre saying consent changes gay sex from a deviant practice to a mainstream one I take it?

so youre saying consent changes gay sex from a deviant practice to a mainstream one I take it?

 

Whether gay sex/ culture is deviant or not is not my issue with you post. My issue is that you compared gay culture to pedophilia which is non-consensual and beastiality which also is not consensual.

 

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and how is it not consentual? youre sying children cannot make a concious decision? there are child prosititues that many deviant frequent! and a animal will willingly submit to sexual demands of a human or snimal iif it feels its right,so again what is the difference?

The issue that I have with "Brokeback Mountain" is that, when two white men are in this situation, it's seen as dignified and even romantic.  When two brothas are in this situation, it's described as them being on the "dl" as if they're somehow the most evil, sexualized, conniving, and wicked creatures on the earth.

At no point has the media described the characters are being on the down low....just "two cowboys in a tragic and conflicted low affair".  

I wonder if, had both of the characters this film been Black, would the film had even made the big screen?  Or...would it simply be another portrayal of gay Black men as ultra femme, female hating, flaming, and confused excuses for masculinity.

Just my two cents...

--Gypsii

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<<The issue that I have with "Brokeback Mountain" is that, when two white men are in this situation, it's seen as dignified and even romantic.  When two brothas are in this situation, it's described as them being on the "dl" as if they're somehow the most evil, sexualized, conniving, and wicked creatures on the earth.>>
exactly! Tragic and all of that nonsense! it is what it is SICK plain and simple!
and how is it not consentual? youre sying children cannot make a concious decision? there are child prosititues that many deviant frequent! and a animal will willingly submit to sexual demands of a human or snimal iif it feels its right,so again what is the difference?
 
 
 
Print and take that to a therapist and they'll know what to do for you from there.
I have a problem with Hollyhood hyping up this movie that noboy went to see, it made 40 million dollars, 33 million of it in San Fran.    My other problem is it took away the spotlight from CRASH< which should get ALL the top honors. Two dudes humping each other is their problem.  Racism and placism in this country needs to be heralded.

33 million in sfLOL!!!

But hey as far my statements go they are from fact not speculation SCIENTIFIC fact!

I agree with you, but I still thought the movie was very good, and deserves it's nominations (moreseo than Crash IMO). Unfortunately the media has stigmatized black homosexuals and it is definitely unfair. I was a lil mad at Oprah for those shows she did, as if white men aren't doing the same thing. Look at that politician from New Jersey. Nevertheless, for the author of this thread, I wouldn't compare gay guys to pedophiles. Pedophiles are straight as well, they prey on children. Two consensual adults choosing to do what they do is their business.
some pedophiles do? but there are many that dont dont lump them all in the media created stereotype! But Im curios what would you compare gays to?
Pedophiles prey on boys and girls. I guess I wouldn't compare gay people do anybody. I dunno. I really don't have a problem with them.

You can't be serious, comparing Gay sex to pedofillia? Two people consenting to engage in sex, as oppose to an adult having sex with a child? You're comparing the two?

You know, there was a time when people use to compare a white person having sex with a black person to someone who engages in beastiality. If you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you are perfectly within your right to not live that way, but to say that it's wrong and comparing homosexuality to the devient acts of a child molester is idiotic and stupid.

 

No one is PUSHING Homosexuality onto anyone. Hollywood has had films on gay characters for years. It's not a subject in EVERY film, nor is it the subject of every television show. No one is forcing these films down your throat. There are clearly just as many none threatening, non-homosexual films out there for your to see. The simple solution is to not go see any film that bothers you. Done. Period. End of story.

 

Oh, and lets call a spade a spade here. The downfall of our society in general; our communities in particular is hardly the fault of homosexuality. We deal every day with a high number of single parent families (straight men leaving their families), high crime, drugs and poverty. How is homosexuality the cause of these problems?

 

Films like Brokeback Mountain and Capote are nothing but entertainment for the masses; they're not the cause of the breakdown of society.

Did you know that NO child ever wants to be a prostitute.  Is that in your facts.  I've yet to hear 1 child, asked"when you grow up and while you're growing up what do you want to be?"  NOT ONE SAID I CHOOSE PROSTITUTION.  Kids don't have a choice, they are hungry, someone is forcing them, some of them don't have any other way to survive.  But just because some guy pays them to rape them, its STILL RAPE.  Do you understand that.  I want you to tell me you understand that.  A child is uncapable of the mental capcity to make that kind of decision to have sex with a grown woman or man.  Or to know what it will do to their little bodies and young minds later in life.  Now you want to talk fact.  Those are some facts for your azz.

Brokeback mountain,as hollywood heads into the oscars tonight I am sincerly hoping that iut get none of the major awards and in starting this discussion I want to ask and say,what is the difference between one deviant sexual preference from another?

depends on what one calls "deviant".

 

whats the difference between gay culture and Pedophilic culture?

pedophiles have sex with children, gays have sex with other adults.

 

between gay culture and Beastiality culture?

bestiality involves animals.

 

Deviance is deviance plain and simple,and I for one do not applaud hollywood in its efforts to Push gay culture as something mainstream,as something normal when it is not!

then don't see the movie - now how easy was that?

 

Id like to see a focus by hollywood on the real gay culture the turmoil it causes in families,the turmoil it causes in communities,the dangers it has created in communities via disease!

so you DO want to see gay-themed films, but just the ones that support YOUR view of them?

 

its time to stop painting the gay lifestyle like its the american dream or something but thats my take! what do you think BV

i think you've been reading rick santorum's talking points.

I have a problem with Hollyhood hyping up this movie that noboy went to see, it made 40 million dollars, 33 million of it in San Fran. 

what does the size of it's take have to do with the quality of the film?

 

 

My other problem is it took away the spotlight from CRASH< which should get ALL the top honors.

based on what?

 

Two dudes humping each other is their problem.  Racism and placism in this country needs to be heralded.

and we need a movie to do this?

Unfortunately the media has stigmatized black homosexuals and it is definitely unfair.

THE MEDIA?  please, black gays have LONG been stigmatised by THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

what is the difference between one deviant sexual preference from another? whats the difference between gay culture and Pedophilic culture?  between gay culture and Beastiality culture? Deviance is deviance plain and simple,and I for one do not applaud hollywood in its efforts to Push gay culture as something mainstream,as something normal when it is not!

I guess it depends on who you let define deviant. To some people masterbation is deviant. To some people any sexual position other than the missionary postion is deviant. Some people think that sex for recreation is deviant!
I mean like some have expressed here.. it's reasonable to draw the line on these things with age and consent! It's legal for a 21 year old to consent to drinking alcohol.. but not a 15 year old. You can't compare a pedophile with a gays. Where is the comparison other than the nature of the act is sexual.
You're views are driven by your religion. Lets get real and deal in common sense




Be nobody's darling;
Be an outcast.
Take the contradictions Of your life And wrap around You like a shawl,
To parry stones
To keep you warm.
~~~~Alice Walker~~~~

 
Speaking as a lesbian woman,  there is nothing deviant about loving another woman. Now I know that society at large may not accept what we're doing in the privacy of our bedrooms but it's nobody's business what we do. Brokeback Mountain is just a movie. Who cares if it wins oscars? The larger issue is why do black people continue to support that racist show?

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