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Tropic Thunder to Make Blackface Funny

Posted Aug 14th 2008 10:00PM by Carmen Dixon
Filed under: BlackSpin, Black Movies

'Tropic Thunder', Ben Stiller's latest directing effort just opened.

Early reviews have pronounced it funny! As you may know, Robert Downey Jr. plays a white actor who takes a role originally written for a black actor and dyes his skin to play the role as a black man. Confusing? Yes. But there is method to his madness.

Downey Jr.'s character does all this in hopes of winning an Oscar. But it's all kind of zany so I wouldn't expect one in real life Iron Man.

'Zoolander' was great so while reading about 'Tropic Thunder' the first time I laughed out loud and felt queasy at the same time.

Race Role Reversals

    Robert Downey Jr. in "Tropic Thunder"
    Downey plays Kirk Lazarus, an Oscar winner who transforms into a black man to portray a Vietnam solder in this film within the film.

    Robert Downey Jr. in "Tropic Thunder"
    The Iron Man actor tells MTV that he owes the inspiration for the character to his director dad who made blaxploitation film nearly 40 years ago called "Putney Swope."

    Ted Danson in Black Face
    Back in 1993 Ted Danson appeared in blackface at a Friars Club roast in honor of his friend Whoopi Goldberg.

    Ted Danson in White Face
    Whoopi tried to silence his critics, saying tasteless, vulgar humor was expected at the roast. "I helped plan it!" she said.

    C. Thomas Howell in "Soul Man"
    Howell played a white student who used "tanning pills" to be black and win a minority Harvard Law scholarship.

    C. Thomas Howell in "Soul Man"
    The flick was the poorly received in black communities to say the least. Some today say it's classic, but during its release it came off as mockery to the hot issue of affirmative action.

    Wayans Brothers in "White Chicks"
    Shawn and Marlon Wayans play two FBI agents who do a race and gender bender to go undercover and foil a kidnapping plot.

    Wayans Brothers in "White Chicks"
    The Wayans brothers looked, well, gross as chicks. Please don't let there be a sequel or a "Black Chicks."

    Eddie Murphy in "Coming To America"
    Murphy employs one of his best characters in this comedy classic as Saul, the Jewish man in the barber shop. "What about Rocky Marciano?"

    Eddie Murphy in "Coming To America"
    Murphy is a master of disguise comedy. And Saul in the barbershop is one of the best race role reversals of them all.


From Entertainment Weekly Online:

If you don't recognize that African-American actor standing between Jack Black and Ben Stiller, there's a good reason: He's white. In Tropic Thunder, an epic action comedy co-written and directed by Stiller, Robert Downey Jr. plays Kirk Lazarus, a very serious Oscar-winning actor cast in the most expensive Vietnam War film ever. Problem is, Lazarus's character, Sgt. Osiris, was originally written as black. So Lazarus decides to dye his skin and play Osiris, um, authentically. Funny? Sure. Dangerous? That's an understatement. ''If it's done right, it could be the type of role you called Peter Sellers to do 35 years ago,'' Downey says. ''If you don't do it right, we're going to hell.''


Here's a favorite comment from various threads about 'Tropic Thunder':

James says: "...This is not Blackface. Blackface is a makeup style intended to demean us Black folks. With the over sized white lips and such. This is a white man in make up making him look black. There is nothing wrong here, at least judging by the still photo. I'm not a fan of Ben Stiller, so I'm sure there is content that would offend me if I actually see this movie. As far as Downey's role being funny, the original queation, has a lot to do with how the character is played. If it's played like Jimmy Walker in fatigues then I wouldn't find it funny at all."

The protest against 'Tropic Thunder' comes not from the Downey Jr's character but the fact that Stiller's character tosses around the offensive term "retard" to insult a character named "Simple Jack" and also uses it as generic term of derision. As one blogger points out, "It must have taken a lot of courage to make fun of people who can't fight back."


WILL YOU SEE TROPIC THUNDER?
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1. Probably not.

In the Middle at 11:27PM on Aug 14th 2008

2. Wayan Brothers made White Chics funny. It really all depends on the intention of the humor, and the level of sensitivity of the audience.

Q at 1:13AM on Aug 15th 2008

3. Saw it today. Aside from some of the language and sexual discussion content, the movie was funny and entertaining. It's a comedy and was portrayed as such.

Angela at 1:38AM on Aug 15th 2008

4. When I heard about this movie I was horrified. I thought Hollywood had been burntout making movies about redemption and insulting people.I think all people who have relatives and friends who are mentally challenged should boycott this movie.It is sickness what people will do to make a buck.I know Hollywood and these commies are doing this dirty work.

Earnesto Francis Johnson at 2:11AM on Aug 15th 2008

5. Well I would like to see it, it will be interesting see a white man play a black man, just as "Q" said in the comments above, Wayan brothers made white chicks and you didnt hear people complaining about that, well I didnt. Its just a movie, stop trying to make everything a big issue about race, If its good and funny, thats all that matters.

msshon26 at 11:35AM on Aug 15th 2008

6. Years ago Walt Disney made a movie named Songs of the South, in it it portrayed back people as slaves with a big black woman as a mammy to a little white boy.During that time the NAACP picketed against the showing of the movie,stating that it portrayed the Negro in a negative image. I know some people that sneaked off and saw the movie and they all came back and said they enjoyed it. We are no longer slaves but we are doctors, teachers, attorneys,scinetist,billionares to paupers in spite of that movie. If there is anyone who will base their opinion of a race of people by some character in a movie, be it Chinese, Native American, Latin etc. You are not very bright.If I were them I would never admit to it.Now the question is, is the movie funny? If it isn't, shame on you Mr. Stiller and Mr.Downey Jr. Youv'e just insulted an entire race of people for the sake of a movie that isn't funny.If it is funny Kudos Boys!

Florence Sullivan at 11:40AM on Aug 15th 2008

7. This is modern day blackface. Downy Jr's character makes fun of black men. I'm convinced Ben Stiller is a closet racist...Do you all remember in Zoolander when he jumped in someone's face and his face was painted black? Black people should not support this movie.

Neems at 12:30PM on Aug 15th 2008

8. To neems #7.

Maybe you need to stop being sentive about this, and about zoolander HE WASENT PRETENDING TO BE BLACK so stop wining, and also it depends on the situation, and so what we as a generation needs to stop wining and besides african americans played other roles like eddie murphy but no one's complaing, and also the're not trying to make fun of the black race (Geez Out of all the winos in this world they have to be in this site) the only way they we are offended is that if we let the situation be blown all out of porpotion....

On and fyi Stiller isnt a racist in any way, He supports the democratic Party morons.

Connor W at 3:31PM on Aug 15th 2008

9. Connor W you are the only moron on this page. People aren't being sensitive they are voicing valid concerns. As Msshon wrote there is a history of bigotry in Hollywood movies, so there is a valid concern. Since this is America ,and citizens are allowed free speech, who are you to tell anyone to "stop whining"? (By the way ,you MORON, you spelled "wining". You misspelled 'whining". Until you can have a command of the English Language you shouldn't even be writing. Are you in third grade? Since it is obvious your not a black person and you have know idea their experiences or their history who are YOU to say if something is racist or not? "Oh" and FYI there are plenty of Racist in the Democratic Party. I am not impressed. You moron there is something called a timid bigot. It is a real term to describe closet bigots. If you had a brain you would be DANGEROUS.

Ronnie at 7:23PM on Aug 15th 2008

10. Connor W you are the only moron on this page. People aren't being sensitive they are voicing valid concerns. As Msshon wrote there is a history of bigotry in Hollywood movies, so there is a valid concern. Since this is America ,and citizens are allowed free speech, who are you to tell anyone to "stop whining"? (By the way ,you MORON, you spelled "wining". You misspelled 'whining". Until you can have a command of the English Language you shouldn't even be writing. Are you in third grade? Since it is obvious your not a black person and you have know idea their experiences or their history who are YOU to say if something is racist or not? "Oh" and FYI there are plenty of Racist in the Democratic Party. I am not impressed. You moron there is something called a timid bigot. It is a real term to describe closet bigots. If you had a brain you would be DANGEROUS.

Ronnie at 7:26PM on Aug 15th 2008

11. great comments Ronnie!!

FT at 7:59PM on Aug 15th 2008

12. To Connor W #8, you post is whack. First off your flimsy point about the Democratic part and B.Stiller not being a racist is idiotic. Ever heard of Reagan Democrats? You do realize that Robert Byrd, the former KKK is RACIST right? most Dems in WV, OH, you know those inclusive Dems are RACIST!! Give me a freaking break.

BTW, I am indifferent. I don't think Stiller is a racist/bigot. I enjoy his movies. But For most Blacks, this is a sensitive issue when it comes to whites portraying blacks. I suggest you read a book on blackface.

FT at 7:59PM on Aug 15th 2008

13. I don't think anyone should even have a negative comment on this movie unless they've seen it. I saw the movie last weekend and I didn't find anything offensive. I felt that it was pretty gross with the blood and stuff but not offensive. I bet half of you didn't know that Tom Cruise and Matthew Mcconaughey were in the movie as well. Everyone is putting blame on Ben Stiller and R. Downey like they're the only ones. If anything, I felt R. Downey played the character very well. Brandon Jackson (real black actor) even makes fun of Downey throughout the movie. The main focus of the movie is a bunch of crazy actors trying to make a movie during the Korean war based on a book written by another character (Nick Nolte). At the end of the day, it's just a movie. Look at Coming to America, White Chicks, Norbit, Soul Man, Chappelle Show, In Living Color, Saturday Night Live, Mad TV, even some Nickelodeon shows. The list goes on. Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics all get portrayed in movies. Even animals, lol.

LadyJ at 7:43AM on Aug 16th 2008

14. i'll see it. i have no reason to believe that it was done out of malice.

leemajaz at 9:31AM on Aug 16th 2008

15.


****16.***** I wouldn't get offended. We do it to other races all the time so for him to pretend he's african american what is the big deal? Some people are just sensetive it may offend others but I find it hilarous. Matter of fact I might go see it today.
***********************************8

YOU ARE SO CORRECT......

Obama_Cousin at 9:52AM on Aug 16th 2008

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