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'The View' On The N-Word - Dry Your Eyes Elizabeth

Posted Jul 18th 2008 8:00AM by Carmen Dixon
Filed under: BlackSpin, Television

I believe Elizabeth Hasselbeck's tears this week on "The View" were sincere. I believe she seeks racial harmony in our country and so do I. Further, it's my hunch that hundreds of thousands of people, many of them white, were nodding along as she expressed her passionate belief that the constant use of the 'n-word' in pop culture makes it more difficult to get to a better, more racially understanding society.

I think she's right. I hate the 'n-word' when anybody uses it. But let me be very clear about my opinion on all of this. ...


Anyone who thinks the move toward racial equality and harmony in this country rests on who uses or does not use the 'n-word' does not even begin to comprehend the kind of gut wrenching self examination and barrier blasting work it will take to build a color neutral society in America.

From "The View"

"We live in a world where pop culture uses that term and we're trying to get to a place where we feel like we're in the same place," Elisabeth said. "How are we supposed to then...move forward if we keep using terms that bring back such pain?"

"I can tell you how, here's how we do it, you listen and say 'Okay, this is how we're using this word and this is why we do it,' and you have to say, 'I understand that, but let's find a new way to move forward,'" Whoopi fired back.
"We don't live in different worlds,"

Elisabeth insisted, "We live in the same world."

However, Whoopi fiercely disagreed with her co-host, saying, "We do live in different worlds, it's just that way. It is Elisabeth."


Rev. Jesse Jackson

    Rev. Jesse Jackson speaks during a news conference in Chicago, Wednesday, July 9, 2008. Jackson apologized Wednesday for comments he made about Barack Obama's speeches in black churches during what he thought was a private.

    AP

    "It was very private," Jackson said. A spokesman for the Obama campaign said that the Illinois senator accepts Jackson's apology. Jackson's son, however, was less kind. "I'm deeply outraged and disappointed in Reverend Jackson's reckless statements," Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. said. Here, Jackson and Obama share a lighter moment in Illinois last month.

    The Rev. Jesse Jackson issued an apology to Obama Wednesday after comments he made about the presidential candidate were picked up on an open microphone. After a Fox News interview on Sunday, Jackson said, "Barack, he's talking down to black people."

    Skip Peterson, AP

    In this Feb. 5, 2008 file photo, Rev. Jesse Jackson holds a campaign sign for Obama, D-Ill., in Chicago. Jackson said Wednesday, July 9, 2008 he's "very sorry" for comments he made about Obama during what he thought was a private conversation with a reporter. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)



Yes Elizabeth, there is a double standard. A black person will not be penalized for using the 'n-word,' and a white person will.

But why does that matter? My perpetually unanswered question to all of the white people who make this complaint is why in the world would any racially sensitive white person want to use the 'n-word'? Why does this particular double standard tick you off so much?

I hate the 'n-word.' I don't use it. My family: me, my mom and my grandmother, sat down together and decided not to use that word. And we didn't and we don't. I have asked black people not to use it in my presence. I have strongly urged white people who wanted my friendship to stop using it altogether, even with other black people who condone it. And I've encouraged them to ask the same of their white friends. But I don't believe in banning words. You can't enforce it anyway.

I feel Elizabeth's pain. Honest talk about race is painful stuff. But as I say to myself many, many times everyday: the only way out is through.
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1. Rev Jackson should have never have called anyone the "N word". It is way worse for a white to call any Afro Americans the "N- Word"! If you are white, and you call an Afro American the "N-Word", you are truly in trouble! In America, White People should only call other White People Neighbor!

Obama Fan at 9:29AM on Jul 18th 2008

2. They're both right. And I've never seen Whoopi this passionate. But I'm leaning more towards Elisabeth. As annoying as she can be on The View. She has a point. No matter what I just can't defend using that word for us and by us. I think the word will always be devisive. Period.

Get Togetha at 9:38AM on Jul 18th 2008

3. I am totally against the use of the "N" word; regardless, of whether the speaker is white or black. Jesse Jackson's comment about Obama was inflammatory enough before we discovered that he also integrated this derogatory word into his sentence. Jesse has been one of the most vocal political pundits rallying against the use of the "N" word. He reprimanded hip-hop artists for their random and rampant use of this term; and yet, here he is using it in a forum where he is "miked" and in front of one of the most conservative media outlets in this nation. I am vehemently opposed to this word under any and all circumstances, but as far as Elisabeth is concerned, I don't buy her tearful act one bit. She strikes me as a diehard racist. When she and Rosie got into their fisticuff, she resorted to these same crocodile tear tactics to solicit audience sympathy for poor little Lizzie. I respect and appreciate the differences that we might have in our politics and religion, but Elisabeth is a co-host on a show called “The View”; and yet, if her colleagues are not on the same page with her point-of-view, she always resorts to tearful outburst. She needs to grow up. They need to replace her with someone who can intelligently express and articulate their opinions, and respect the opinions of their colleagues.

I'm just saying... Peace and Blessings!

Bermudia at 10:18AM on Jul 18th 2008

4. Allowing any kind of double standard means that rules have to apply. If the n word is okay for blacks and not whites, then what about the Tiger Woods of the world, or the Barack Obamas? What about those that are 1/4 black or 1/8 black? How black do you need to be for it to be okay? And how white do you have to be for it to be wrong? Who decides? Until a constitution of the n word is written up, I say nix it. Period. It's hateful, derogatory and no one is hurt by it being eliminated from the vernacular altogether!

Geena at 10:28AM on Jul 18th 2008

5. Well, as long as black people believe they live in a different world, they will...

I am sure Whoopie lives in the same world with the single black mothers trying to feed their kids, while avoiding getting assaulted coming home late at night in the ghetto. I hate when rich black people try to force segregation, while balcks and whites in similar social status get along just fine.

I think Tiger Woods cares that someone white in Alabama uses the n-word just as much as Donald Trump cares that someone black in urban Atlanta says "cracker" :) Do Mexicans also live in a different world? Only that the second richest man in the world is Mexican...yeah, tell him that :)

Why do you guys (blackvoices) write about the n-word? You don't feel offended by being called "the n-word"? Why don't you write about the forced segregation by Whoopie instead? Who is she to tell all black people they live in a different world?

unknown at 10:34AM on Jul 18th 2008

6. Whoopi is right, there are two worlds.

Blacks want to tell white people not to use it in both worlds.

But whites aren't allowed to tell Blacks not to use it in either.

If we are not one world, then let each manage it's own. And don't complain...

no name at 10:56AM on Jul 18th 2008

7. Rev.Jesse Jackson knows better, public life is not new to him. I did not like what he said, but who hasn't said or did something that he wish he hadn't. I am so glad that no matter how bad we as humans think something is, God is the only one that can judge us. It's been said and critized. Let's put it to bed and move on.

H.R.Dorsey at 10:56AM on Jul 18th 2008

8. Rev. Jesse Jackson knows better, public life is not something new to him. I do not like what he said, but we all have said or did things we were sorry for. I don't care how bad we as humans think it is,only God can judge and Rev. Jackson and the rest of us need to be very glad of that. It has been said and critized,lets put it to rest and move on.

Brenda Dorsey at 11:07AM on Jul 18th 2008

9. Elizabeth Hasselbeck and others like McCain's wife made the statement that America has been good to them. They are right, they only see America one way it is not the same America for many people of color as it is for whites. We may be in the same country but we are not treated the same andshe needs to understand that and stop acting like everything is okay. What Jackson said was wrong (yes) but some of those same people who are saying back what Hasselbeck says use the N word.African Americans will handle the issue of the N word we will clean out own house.

Anderson at 11:22AM on Jul 18th 2008

10. The N-word has been debated for a long time now. Yes, I hate to hear that word. When someone says it, sings it, shouts it, etc. It is a word that has brought pain to all of America. The truth is that blacks will call other blacks that name until they stop using it. We as humans have to become humans. Don't call me the N-word, call be by my birth name. That is who I AM!
Elizabeth should be passionate about the word, it is painful. Whoopi, yes, we don live in different worlds and one day maybe we all can live in one!

Nadine at 11:36AM on Jul 18th 2008

11. I didn't grow up hearing the N-word much in my family. When I hear it, I know the context, and honestly it doesn't offend me. I would have a problem with a white people saying that word mainly because it's not a natural part of their experience. (although that's not true for all whites. What are they trying to transmit to me? And if it's just a popculture thing, well I don't have any control over that... and I would expect respect for using a loaded word in my presence. WHAT OFFENDS ME is one out of three black men in ghettoes being involved in the jail system. WHAT OFFENDS ME is whites having 12x times the wealth largely due to a primitive accumulation driven socialism that we're never supposed to acknowledge. WHAT OFFENDS ME is that blacks and whites BOTH contribute to guaging race relations on silly possibly humiliating words instead of dealing with generational ECONOMIC humiliation.

Where are the adults?

Cultural Artifact at 11:37AM on Jul 18th 2008

12. Elizabeth get's on my last nerve. She think's she knows everything. I completly understand where Whoopi was coming from. We have taken something that was meant to be negative, and made it funny.

And I don't use the "N" word in our home. But I've been around people of color that have used it. I know that I'm not one so it doesn't bother me.

KIMBERLY ARMSTRONG at 11:50AM on Jul 18th 2008

13. "WHAT OFFENDS ME is whites having 12x times the wealth largely due to a primitive accumulation driven socialism that we're never supposed to acknowledge."

Are you kidding me? Blacks have been introduced to a monetary system and the idea of wealth less than 300 years ago. They [slaves] were taken from places where social status often meant "fat" or "food" and taken to a place where wealth was an abstract idea.

On top of this, blacks were not allowed to accumulate wealth until 100-120 years ago (and about 50 years ago without any limitations). Do you think that 50 years (two generations, tops) would be able to magically match white families which have been aquiring wealth for 600-700 years? It's like expecting Iraq's economy to be as strong as the US 50 years from now...

There are a lot of rich black people in this country, a lot of black CEOs who get paid millions of dollars every year, but it takes generations to become wealthy. It's not going to happen overnight and wiping out the n-word would do nothing to improve your social status whatsoever.

unknown at 12:04PM on Jul 18th 2008

14. You are exactly right that racial harmony in America is not going to simply depend on the usage of the n-word. But it has to begin somewhere, and that's certainly one of the many parts of the solution. When blacks use it even for non-racist purposes, the usage still stirs feelings of divisiveness and racism. In a world where we as Americans need to be teaching unity, why perpetuate the hatred associated with a word by making the usage of the word acceptable even to the people who were originally the targets of such hatred? No one said that the n-word should be banned. Words can never be banned even if there was legislation. We could all be living under Stalin, and he still would not be able to ban words. It is because we can always say the words in our minds and thoughts. So there is no banning of words. However, the issue here is the acceptability and excusability of using the n-word. No one should accept it as a harmless word, whether black, white, yellow, red, or green. And no one should excuse it. Elizabeth's pain was not about honest talk on the issue of race. It was about two black women perpetuating the hatred and denigration associated with the n-word by advocating and justifying its use by blacks.

Armanius at 12:30PM on Jul 18th 2008

15. Does anyone think that the Obama family uses the n-word? How about Colin Power or Secretary Rice? If Obama is elected President, will it be used in the White House by the Commander In Chief? I think not. The fact that Sheri and her family use it tells us why she is willing to vote for a black Presidential candidate just because he is black providing a role model for her son. People who use that term do not provide a positive role model for anyone regardless of color, where they come from or how many movies they have been in.

Kate at 12:45PM on Jul 18th 2008

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