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Candidates Telling Immigrants Mi Casa, Su Casa

Posted Jun 30th 2008 9:00AM by Faye Anderson
Filed under: BlackSpin, Elections, Barack Obama

In a 2006 cover story, Time magazine asked that question.

For most Americans, the answer is straightforward: We decide who gets to stay. But millions of illegal immigrants think they have a "human right" to sneak across the border or overstay their visa.

In separate appearances before the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials this weekend, John McCain and Barack Obama promised advocates for illegal immigrants that mi casa es su casa. Loosely translated: Vote for me and amnesty supporters will be welcomed at the White House. ...

Obama vs. McCain - The Issues

    Foregin Policy

    Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions; Expand our diplomatic presence, strengthen NATO and make Israeli-Palestinian conflict a key diplomatic priority; Fight global poverty and seek new partnerships in Asia



    McCain plans to fight violent Islamic extremists and terrorist tactics; increase the size of the military; sanctions on Russia until Putin exits Chechnya; Urge Japan to open economy to ensure Asian recovery; No diplomatic or trade relations with Cuba, Iran or North Korea; solidarity with U.S. allies.


    Gay Marriage

    Obama says "Marriage has religious and social connotations, and I consider marriage to be between a man and a woman." He wants states to decide this and supports legal benefits for same-sex partners.



    McCain says he opposes a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, wants individual states to decide the issue. Supports legal benefits for same-sex partners.

    Enviornment and Climate Change

    Obama's plan calls for a reduced carbon emissions 80 ppercent by 2050; invest in a clean energy future; support next generation biofuels; and set a path to oil independence.



    McCain calls for climate policy built on scientifically-sound evidence; mandatory emission reduction targets; facilitate international efforts.

    Immigration

    Obama's plan for immigration calls for securing boarders; must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants; Bring people out of the shadows and work with Mexico; cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.



    McCain's plan for immigration includes deporting some of the 2 million illegal immigrants who committed crimes; Certify border is secure; only then allow guest workers; McCain stands against amnesty plans for illegal citizens; Comprehensive reform requires temporary worker program.

    The War

    Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. He has called for no permanent bases in Iraq; Obama plans to make it clear to the Iraqi government and military that the U.S. is leaving.



    McCain's plan for Iraq includes succeeding before leaving. He wants to put international pressure on Syria and Iran for aiding in the aided and abetted the violence in Iraq;
    improve Iraq's economy.

    Education

    Obama's education plan includs reforming No Child Left Behind; Address the dropout crisis; recruit, train and tetain better teachers; make the first $4,000 of a college education
    completely free throught tax credits.



    McCain's plan states if a school will not change, the students should be able to change schools; place parents and children at the center of the education process; create a school systems based on competition and not low standards.

    Health Care

    Obama's plan call for coverage of uninsured Americans through a national health plan with affordable premiums. Obama has also called for a National Health Insurance Exchange act as a watchdog group to reform the private insurance market; Mandatory coverage of children and better
    organized state heal care plans.



    McCain's health care plan is focused to reduce spending and extenting more health care options to those who are typically uninsured. His plan calls for pushing Health savings Accounts; work with states to establish a guaranteed access plan.

    Economy

    Obama's plan for the economy included middle-class tax relief; Creating green jobs; protect homeownership and crack down on mortgage fraud. end predatory credit card practices.



    McCain's Plan for the economy includes eliminating broken and wasteful government programs; a middle-class tax cut; Social Security reform; lower trade barriers.



Though Obama voted for comprehensive immigration reform cosponsored by McCain, he bashed the presumptive Republican presidential nominee for backing away from his own bill:
There is one place where Sen. McCain and I agreed and we used to work together to offer change on immigration and I -- he deserves great credit as a champion of comprehensive reform. I admire him for it. I know that he talked about that when he just spoke before you, but what he didn't mention is that when he was running for his party's nomination, he walked away from that commitment. He said that he wouldn't even support his own legislation if it came up for a vote.
McCain defended his flip-flop:
Many Americans, with good cause, did not believe us when we said we would secure our borders, and so we failed in our efforts. We must prove to them that we can and will secure our borders first, while respecting the dignity and rights of citizens and legal residents of the United States. But we must not make the mistake of thinking that our responsibility to meet this challenge will end with that accomplishment. We have economic and humanitarian responsibilities as well, and they require no less dedication from us in meeting them.
McCain regularly invokes this non sequitur:
I understand these are God's children.
Of course they are, but there are billions of God's children worldwide. Does that mean that if, in the words of Oleta Adams they somehow "get here," they should be placed on a path to citizenship? If they are able to "cross the border in a blaze of hope," ICE should not enforce existing laws.

The fact is, illegal immigrants' only claim on America is that they violated U.S. immigration laws. Such a willful disrespect for the rule of law should not be rewarded with a promise that their interests will be a "top priority" of the new Democratic or Republican administration.
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1. "There are so many illegals here that the government will have to reach a fair solution to the problem."

What do you consider a fair solution?

Let the illegals stay and take the construction jobs? Let the illegals stay and take auto mechanic jobs? Let the illegals stay and take janitorial jobs, manufacturing and service industry jobs? What's fair? Is it fair to have to compete for a living wage? Is it fair to compete with the illegal for any jobs?

Many of our communities are on the brink of destruction having to compete for everything. Is this fair? Fair solution, what is that? I see nothing fair about illegal aliens.

Joe at 2:14PM on Jun 30th 2008

2. Perhaps we should reach for something higher. We should now, and this is long overdue, turn our interests over to producing more doctors, lawyers, engineers, businessmen/women, architects, etc. Why do we always try to hold onto the bottom of the barrel? We should not be competing with anyone for crumbs. We've been here for over 400 years. Lets try and up our standards this time around 'cause these folks have made it clear, they aren't going anywhere. Try and force them out, they know they way back. When eating daily is at stake a person will do whatever it takes.

black steel at 4:07PM on Jun 30th 2008

3. This is the result of the Marxist multicultural agenda to destroy the middle class and expamd the under-class power base that keeps the machine of the poverty pimps going....illegal aliens get their rent and light bill paid by the government while the eldery citizens need to work for $7 an hour to pay their property taxes....illegal immigrants get favored at the expense of others who are U.S citizens because they do the work that Americans don't want to do is the repeated mantra of the libneo-cons...but it is balloney. It is wrecking havoc on innocent peoples lives and society at large to further a particular political agenda...and it makes me wanna holler!

Lisette at 8:00PM on Jun 30th 2008

4. Right on Joe! Americans do not realize that the illegal aliens are being used as pawns to destroy the middle class. Middle class jobs are being shipped to third world countries while service industry jobs with no benefits are left for American citizens. It's time we secure the border and take our country back from the libneo-cons before they completely sell the country out to the global elites.

Natasha at 8:43AM on Jul 1st 2008

5. Black Steel which illegal immigrants get their bills paid by the goverment? This people are so scared to go to any official office including Hospitals let alone go apply for Goverment aid. True they over burden the healthcare system because when they finally do they probably have no insurance to pay their bills and so on and so on. But how many American citezens still have hospital bills pending? I have had the pleasure of working and living with some of this so called illegal immigrants and they live just like any other American. They work hard to pay their bills and send the little they can back home. Yes Some have turned out to be criminals and should not be allowed to be here. Some work their butts off just to earn a living. If they dont have papers to work they only get to work for minimum wage under the table which is a joy to the employer since it lowers his overhead cost.
But look on the other side if we allow them to have work papers at least and a drivers license we can keep track of them like anyone else. He wont work for 5 bucks an hour and will demand the same pay everyone else is getting since he has nothing to be afraid off. He will get a job and expect benefits including insurance and that will make him less of a burden to the system.
As long as we still keep on insisting that they are illegal and should not be given a chance to be here legally we will continue to face this.
Our forefathers got in a ship in europe and docked on the American Coast never called ahead, but just showed up mmmh! for what to try and get a better life for their families and to free religious persecution. this people from Mexico, Africa and everywhere else just want the same. Some are kids who came to school but overstayed their visas since they got caught up with the tuition. Imagine a college student paying his own school fees while working a $5 an hr Job with no financial aid. lets see our american childen do that(some do.
To the hard working immigrants who wake up every morning to try and make a decent living more power to you, to the rest pack up and go!!

fanywa at 8:08AM on Jul 3rd 2008

6. Stop playing the "illegal alien" card. Mexicans are mostly an Indigenous people, Native American, whose ancestors have been in the US long before whites and blacks arrived to the American continent.

"Legal" does not equal moral. Not long ago, it was illegal for blacks to escape from their masters, it was illegals for people of different races to marry, it was illegal for blacks to go into certain states.

According to the Social Security Administration, it is estimated that illegal immigrants have paid $450 billion to the SS security fund. Immigrant Households and Businesses Generate Billions: In 2005, immigrant households and businesses paid approximately $300 billion in federal, state, and local taxes: $165 billion in federal income taxes, $85 billion in state and local income taxes, and $50 billion in business taxes. Immigrants Pay More in Taxes Than They Use in Services Over Their Lifetimes: Depending on skills and level of education, each immigrant pays, on average, between $20,000 and $80,000 more in taxes than he or she consumes in public benefits.Seventy five percent of immigrants arrive in the United States when they are in their prime working years.

Many diverse Indigenous populations have existed in Mexico for thousands of years, and today's Mexicans are descendants of those Native Americans. Among them:

***The "Yoeme" or Yaqui are a border Native American people who originally lived in the valley of the Río Yaqui in the northern Mexican state of Sonora and throughout the Sonoran Desert region into the southwestern U.S. state of Arizona. The Yaqui call themselves "Yoeme," the Yaqui word for person ("yoemem" or "yo'emem" meaning "people"). The Yaqui call their homeland "Hiakim," from which some say the name "Yaqui" is derived. They may also describes themselves as Haiki Nation, the Haiki. Many folk etymologies exist as to how the "Yoeme" came to be known as the "Yaqui'

***The Olmec were an ancient Pre-Columbian people living in the tropical lowlands of south-central Mexico, roughly in what are the modern-day states of Veracruz and Tabasco on the Isthmus of Tehuantepec. Their cultural influence, however, extends far beyond this region. The Olmec flourished during the Formative (or Preclassic) period, dating from 1200 BCE to about 400 BCE, and are believed to have been the progenitor civilization of later Mesoamerican civilizations.

***The Zapotec civilization was an indigenous pre-Columbian civilization that flourished in the Valley of Oaxaca of southern Mesoamerica. Archaeological evidence shows their culture goes back at least 2500 years. They left archaeological evidence at the ancient city of Monte Albán in the form of buildings, ball courts, magnificent tombs and grave goods including finely worked gold jewelry. Monte Albán was the first major city in the western hemisphere and the center of a Zapotec state that dominated much of what we know of as the current state of Oaxaca.

***The Mixtec (or Mixteca) are an indigenous Mesoamerican people inhabiting the Mexican states of Oaxaca, Guerrero and Puebla in a region known as La Mixteca. The Mixtecan languages form an important branch of the Otomanguean linguistic family.

The term Mixtec (Mixteco in Spanish) comes from the Nahuatl word Mixtecapan, or "place of the cloud-people". The area in which Mixtec is spoken is known as the Mixteca. The Mixtecs call themselves ñuu savi, ñuu djau, ñuu davi, naa savi, etc., depending on the local variant of their language, the sa'an davi, da'an davi or tu'un savi.

In pre-Columbian times, the Mixtec were one of the major civilizations of Mesoamerica. Important ancient centres of the Mixtec include the ancient capital of Tilantongo, as well as the sites of Achiutla, Cuilapan, Huajuapan, Mitla, Tlaxiaco, Tututepec, Juxtlahuaca, and Yucuñudahui. The Mixtec also made major constructions at the ancient city of Monte Albán (which had originated as a Zapotec city before the Mixtec gained control of it). The work of Mixtec artisans who produced work in stone, wood, and metal were well regarded throughout ancient Mesoamerica.

C L at 2:19PM on Jul 3rd 2008

7. Americans must demand a zero tolerance towards all illegal immigration. Every country has immigration laws they enforce. The US is no different. Did you know the US allows more immigration than any other nation in the world? Did you know the US also gives away billions in foreign aid to 154 countries? Did you know the US is the last nation to grant citizenship just for giving birth on US soil? These issues must change if the US is going to thrive in the world.

We are 10 trillion in debt. Our economy is in a recession. Americans are losing their jobs and homes. Gas and food are sky high in price. The US dollar is at an all time low. We are bankrupt and can't afford to support the poor, uneducated and undesired from the rest of the world.

The Republicans and Democrats are both to blame for their lack of leadership and ethics. Our government is not a democracy and it's not run for the benefit and welfare of it's citizens. The US government is run for the benefit of the wealthy elite and corporations. They have a global agenda and they are forcing it down our throats. The two party system must be reformed to keep corporations and lobbyists out of government. The US two party system gives Americans one more choice than communism. We have traitors in our government that don't give a damn about this country or it's people. It's time to vote against any politician advocating any form of amnesty. We can end illegal immigration once and for all. The American people must demand it and hold our nation's leaders accountable.

Stephen at 4:50AM on Jul 4th 2008

8. There are so many illegals here that the government will have to reach a fair solution to the problem. For an administration that focused on ridding the country of terrorist, they have done a poor job in screening immigrants, some of who could be terrorists.
But as always, the focus has been on sending money and military manpower to Iraq.

The Real Issue at 4:11AM on Jul 7th 2008

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