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Right to Bear Arms Against Racists?

Posted Mar 20th 2008 12:55PM by Branden Cobb
Filed under: BlackSpin

The right to keep and bear arms is a constitutional provision granted by the Second Amendment. Yet, the case of John White on Long Island calls into question when you should exercise that right.

For those who don't know, John White is a hard-working father, who scrimped and saved to buy his family a home in an upscale Long Island neighborhood. The well-liked man who had never been in trouble with the law had his life turned upside down one night in 2006; that's when he shot and killed a drunk white teen with an illegal weapon in his driveway. The teen and his group of equally belligerent friends had come to the White home threatening to kill White's teenage son, Aaron.

Why you might ask? A rumor had circulated that the black teen was planning to rape a white girl. After 17-year-old Daniel Cicciaro and his friends shouted racial slurs, White came out of his home carrying a handgun. He pointed at Cicciaro during a confrontation and then the gun allegedly went off accidentally. Unfortunately, the jury didn't buy it. He was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to two to four years behind bars.

You would think that would be the end of the story but it's not. Cicciaro's family held an expletive-laced press conference where Cicciaro's father complained that his sentence was too light and then he shouted ""Well, let's see what happens when Aaron White gets shot and see how the laws are," Cicciaro said.

The police took this as a threat and added additional police protection for the White family.

Now, Cicciaro's statements beg the question, was this case sparked by vigilante justice? And, if it was, when does an eye for an eye end?

Cicciaro and his friends went to Mr. White's home trying to prevent an alleged rape. Yet, if they were truly interested in justice, wouldn't the police have been a better stop than Mr. White's driveway? It would seem that went there to act as their own regulating unit.

Mr. White's hands aren't clean either. He too chose not to call the authorities and to retaliate against what he saw as an angry white mob. White's wife has argued that he had every right to protect their home and family.

But the question must be asked, when and to what extent do we have the right to retaliate?


The defense suggested that White should have gone in his house, ignored the mob and called the police. Is that something a reasonable person would do? Would you? Or, would you use your constitutionally protected right to bear arms to defend your home and property?

The judge and jurors in this case seem to have sided with White, recognizing his right to do something. Instead of getting the maximum sentence he was shown leniency.

"While Mr. White may be the only individual who bears criminal responsibility ... there are moral accessories in the death of Daniel Cicciaro," the judge said, referring to the young men who accompanied Cicciaro.

"They did not hold the gun, they did not pull the trigger, but they share responsibility," the judge said.

However, we don't want a society filled with vigilantes. After all, that is why we have gun laws. Though they vary from state-to-state, the objective is to allow people to defend themselves and not to act offensively.

It is still debatable whether Mr. White used his right to bear arms appropriately.


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1. Mr. White should have called the police. His son arrived at the house well within time for papa to call 911. Instead, he reached for the gun and waited for the kids to arrive. I'm glad he had a gun to protect his family from the potential ensuing harm done to his family by this racist b@$tard, but much of this situation could have been averted had he deferred to law enforcement - A father would not be face time away from his family, his son would not carry the guilt of knowing he in part is the cause of his father behind bars, and the hate-spewing prick would still be alive.

shell at 1:54PM on Mar 20th 2008

2. I beleive he took the gun outside to his yard to frieghten the young man he did not now he would be drunk enough to tried to jump him with a loaded gun in his hand no one would, and why if he went their to talk to a friend would he need two others teenager ,calling the old man bad names in his own yards we have to be able to protec our selves in this society.

dweetta adams at 2:05PM on Mar 20th 2008

3. IF you want to point blame , blame the people who gave the party ,and allowed teenagers to drink and plot and get mad enough to be a angry mob looking for trouble and disrepecting old black mens .

dweetta adams at 2:15PM on Mar 20th 2008

4. I agree w/@1-Shell

Though, I too, most likely would not have been able to resist the temptation of at least brandishing my gun for the mob's visual effect, in hopes of detering them from staying on my property while waiting on the police to arrive. But, that may not be the wisest decision either, in light of Mr. White's claim that the gun accidentally discharged, leading to the death of one of the young men.

It's a sad situation anyway you look at it...Mr. White having to spend time in prison, the loss his family will feel being w/out him for that time and the ultimate demise of a teen as the result of a drinking binge gone awry. Sad and senseless.

Thank God that Mr. White is only looking at 2-4 years. His life was essentially in the hands of the judge, who could have overruled the jury's decision and given him something ridiculous that would have been as newsworthy as the incident itself. Instead, the did the right thing...God bless all involved.

DarkNLovely at 2:19PM on Mar 20th 2008

5. I agree w/#1-Shell
Though, I too, most likely would not have been able to resist the temptation of at least brandishing my gun for the mob's visual effect, in hopes of detering them from staying on my property while waiting on the police to arrive. But, that may not be the wisest
decision either, in light of Mr. White's claim that the gun accidentally discharged, leading to the death of one of the young men.

It's a sad situation anyway you look at it...Mr. White having to spend time in prison, the loss his family will feel being w/out him for that time and the ultimate demise of a teen as the result of a
drinking binge gone awry. Sad and senseless.

Thank God that Mr. White is only looking at 2-4 years. His life was essentially in the hands of the judge, who could have overruled the jury's decision and given him something ridiculous and unfair that would have been as newsworthy as the incident itself. Instead, she/he did the right thing...God bless all those involved.

DarkNLovely at 2:27PM on Mar 20th 2008

6. He had every right to shoot this thug. He brought it on himself to go to this man's house, then to make threats and hurling racial abuse.

Nick Wade; Texas at 2:41PM on Mar 20th 2008

7. Unfortunately we still haven't come far from the color of our skin. We have seen a lot of involvement with shootings in New York dealing with RACE. It is definitely an unfortunate accident, but I would imagine he purchased the gun to protect his family. The young man was on private property but again the question is if the story was the other way and the Afro-American young man was shot, would that father do any jail time.

lee at 2:46PM on Mar 20th 2008

8. For me, the whole situation once again reaffirms how much mre we need to do in order to improve race relations in this country and dispell myths about black men. The fact that these white teens believe a rumor and feared that a black teen would rape a white woman is eerily reminiscent of the hold over slavery mentality.

In terms of the gun issue, I think this society is far too violent. While I think we all have the right to bear arms and protect our families, it's important that we don't become vigilanties. In this case, "stick and stones" may have been a great lesson for Mr. White. The young men were using threatening language but they had not acted when he pulled the gun. Therefore, he had time to make a different choice; one that would nto give yet another black man a record and one that would set a good example for his son.

MC at 2:49PM on Mar 20th 2008

9. "The right to keep and bear arms is a constitutionally provision granted by the Second Amendment. Yet, the case of John White on Long Island calls into question whether or not black people have this same right"

-White had 2 loaded unlicensed firearms.

- All of this happened at the end of the driveway, almost in a public street, NOT inside his house. This wasn't some rural street, SCPD would've respond within a couple minutes of a 9-1-1 call.

miller place, li at 2:59PM on Mar 20th 2008

10. Once Al Sharpton got involved in this case,this case went sour.I am a retired law enforcement person.Ihave been called the Nword a thousand times, and I can not imagine ever thinking about hurting someone for calling me the Nword and alot of times,spit followed the words.We can not have a justice system that allows a race baiter to challenge them on the law.The law is clear,you may only use D.F.Force to protect your life.Walking out of your house without calling the police,with a loaded and illegal gun,put the gun in a kids face and claim Ishot him by accident is murder.

BW at 3:17PM on Mar 20th 2008

11. Who wrote this? Your completely sidestepping the issue. This is not a race issue, or a gun control issue, the issue is that Mr. White, be it out of fear or subconcious desire, shot this 17 year old boy in the face with an illegally owned gun, and he has gotten nothing but support from everyone. Its true he was defending his home and his family, and that is an admirable action, but why did he have to go for a gun? What was his reason for not picking up, say, a bat or a broom or some other blunt object, and going straight for the 9mm? This article is completely one sided and biased, Mr White got away with murder, end of story.

Luke at 3:30PM on Mar 20th 2008

12. Luke, I would like to see you confront a crowd of drunk young men half your age with a "blunt object". Geesh.

SwissMiss at 4:02PM on Mar 20th 2008

13. wow.....2 to 4 years?
so if a black mob came at a white man and he shot one of them he would be sentenced 1st degree homocide
this is bull shit, i dont blame the teen for trying to protect his sister
mr white should be in jail for 25 to life, it was an illegal gun, how can u say "The well-liked man who had never been in trouble with the law..." ? he had an ILLEGAL SHOT GUN, and the father is raceist for saying the man deserves more time in jail, for shooting an unarmed 17 year old DRUNK boy (he doesnt know what hes saying, cuz hes kinda DRUNK) who is trying to protect his sister from getting rapped wit an ILLEGAL, NON LICENCED SHOT GUN

dropbomzonyamomz at 4:19PM on Mar 20th 2008

14. The author of this commentary is wrong. From a safety standpoint, the best thing to do is put distance or a barrier between you and your attacker. Retreat to the house, call the police, and shoot only if they breach the barrier.

From a legal standpoint, we are not allowed to defend our property with deadly force. We are allowed to defend life, but we can not ADVANCE and shoot, only RETREAT and shoot.

I am sorry to see that the author is mostly concerned about the racial component if this incident and is glad that this idiot only got a 'slap on the wrist'. A somehwat similar incident happened in Houston involving Joe Horn. In this case the races were reversed. Hopefully, the white Mr. Horn will not receive a 'slap on the wrist'.

Fred at 4:31PM on Mar 20th 2008

15. I was taught how to fight with my hands, and not weapons. I could handle a group of 17 y/o kids if I had to. Give me a bat, and its not even a question of whether or not I could handle them, and the fact that their drunk is also in my favor. So I wouldn't need a gun, and neither did Mr. White. I mean, he seriously did get away with murder. I live on Long Island, and in my town, Elmont, one man killed his parents, and he is facing 50 years in prison, Mr. White kills one person and gets 4 years tops, with the option of a 200,000 bail out!? He will be back home by easter, and he KILLED SOMEONE! This just isn't right, where where was Daniel Ciccero's Al Sharpton? Where were the groups of people trying to defend his right to live, versus mr Whites right to kill drunk teenagers?

Luke at 4:36PM on Mar 20th 2008

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