• AOL
  • My AOL
  • Mail
  • Make BlackVoices My HomePage
  • ENTERTAINMENT NEWS
  • MOVIES
  • TELEVISION
  • MUSIC
  • RADIO
  • GAMES
  • BLACK VOICES
  • TMZ
Black Voices
Black Voices
Web
SEARCH Search The Web Magnify Glass
x
  • Main
  • News
  • Obama Watch
  • Entertainment
  • Life & Style
  • Sports
  • Work & Money
  • Blogs
  • Boards
  • Videos
Send Feedback
BV BLOGS
  • Main
  • Black Spin
  • BV Bookshelf
  • BV Buzz
  • BV Power List
  • Casually Obsessed
  • Entertainment Newswire
  • Hair Apparent
  • It's All Reel
  • Money Talks
  • Style Spotter
Blog Categories
  • Black Voices Products
  • Life and Style
  • News
  • Entertainment
  • Sports
RESOURCESsquare
  • Contact Us
  • Problems
  • RSS Feeds
BLOG ROLLsquare
  • (Red)
  • Afrobella
  • Afronerd
  • AIDS Combat Zone
  • All About Race
  • AMBERmag.com Fashion & Beauty
  • Anarchist Graffiti
  • Anderson@Large Political Blog
  • AverageBro
  • Baller Status
  • Black and Married With Kids
  • Black Web 2.0
  • Bossip
  • Brown Sista
  • Canada's HipHossip
  • Clay Cane
  • Clutch
  • Cocoa Lounge
  • Concrete Loop
  • Crunk Disorderly
  • Drew Reports
  • Funky Brown Chick Humor
  • I Love Black Movies
  • Jack and Jill Politics
  • Janet Charlton's Hollywood
  • Love B. Scott
  • Milk Magazine
  • Molifeney
  • Nah Right
  • NPR News & Notes Blog
  • P2Styles Blog
  • Perez Hilton
  • Political Machine Elections Blog
  • Politics in Color
  • Pop Culture Junkie
  • Popeater AOL Music
  • Queersighted
  • Real Talk NY
  • Rhymes with Snitch
  • Sandra Varner's Talk 2 SV
  • Seventh Square
  • Smoking Section
  • Soul Bounce Music
  • Spinner
  • Stereo Hyped
  • Strictly Fabulous Style
  • StyleList AOL Style
  • That Grape Juice
  • The Black Informant
  • The Fashion Bomb
  • The People's News
  • The Root
  • TMZ
  • Today's Drum
  • VisualAIDS
  • Wallet Pop
  • Young, Black & Fabulous

2008 Elections: Suddenly Black People Matter

Posted Jan 16th 2008 12:00PM by Madison J. Gray
Filed under: BlackSpin, Elections, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton

Quick hit: I was watching the Democratic Presidential Debate on MSNBC last night (I was the only one in the universe who wasn't watching American Idol), and toward the end, Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were engaged in questions over the murder rate and the school dropout rate for black males.

Fmr. Sen. John Edwards almost seemed kind of left out until he said he'd reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban.

What struck me was that for the first time what happens to black men in this country was worth discussion at a debate between the major presidential candidates. When it was all white males sitting at the table, trust and believe, the thought had never crossed their minds.

Then I thought about a question that had been posed to me earlier in the day, about African Americans clinging to Clinton. But I had disagreed. In fact, because of Obama, Clinton is now forced to campaign for the black vote just as much as anyone else. To her credit last night, she did. Without prodding, she brought up how the subprime lending debacle has disproportionately affected minorities and seemed brave enough to do it.

Could Obama have done the same without it seeming like so-called "race-baiting?" Who knows, but the two did make an effort to stem the cloud of unneccessary racial discussion that media seems to be sucking down to the marrow.



Here's the thing: because of her husband's popularity with black folk (which I've always felt wasn't so richly deserved due to his foreign policy), Clinton would normally have the black vote sewn up. But Obama actually IS black and is also credible, which naturally sways the attention of the black body politic.


Poor education and the homicide rate were issues specific to the black community. In fact, if you had to pick what affects us most, those two along with health care would be at the top of the list. But at the same time, you've still got to balance that with the economy, the war in Iraq, immigration, the environment, energy policy, trade, and technology. Not to mention nationwide infrastructure, the interior and use of domestic waterways. And don't even get me started on transportation and national security.

Yeah, black people, while you were watching Paula, Randy and Simon, these things continued to affect you directly.

On Jan. 21, a couple days after the crucial South Carolina Primary, the Congressional Black Caucus is sponsoring a debate between the candidates. If you're smart, you'll listen for not just a few, but all of the things that have been mentioned above as you formulate your opinions.


American Idol isn't going anywhere, and really is nowhere near as important.


  • Permalink
  • Email this
  • Share
  • Comments [21]

Reader Comments

(Page 1)

1. This post has been removed because it violates the terms of service.

nathan forrest at 3:37PM on Jan 16th 2008

2. blacks better wake up and realize these people don't care any thing about us all they want is our votes . as blacks are voting today more than ever and they knows that. if i had my way about it. i wouldn't vote for any of them. most of the lies and when it comes to you doing whats right. they say tell the truth.believe me i'm praying and \asking God to guide me in who to vote for. As he knows the heart of all of us. also. we must put ones in office who are more to stand on he morals and valves of God. this world is falling cause of the sins of man. yet, we wonder of the crimes thats going up daily. God will get our attention one way of another.Who is it that act if we don't need God wanting to take God out of this or that. as they did prayer and now every time u hear news . guns in our school. God is in control of his world even tho many think man is . have a blessed evening.If ever needing prayer we sure do need it now.

edith at 4:16PM on Jan 16th 2008

3. NEWS FLASH !
Hillary Was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964
While a republican and "Goldwater Girl"


A March 12, 2007 article written by acclaimed Washington columnist Robert Novak sheds a very revealing light on the true sentiment of Hillary Clinton during the peak of the Civil Rights Movement. Clinton recently was found to have minimized the great and monumental strides taken by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by stating that it was Lyndon B. Johnson, then president, who should receive the credit for civil rights progress including the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
In an attempt to attract black support Hillary Clinton regularly shares her 'civil rights experience' during every speech given to blacks audiences. Novak writes of one such speech at Selma's First Baptist Church on the 42nd anniversary of the "bloody Sunday" freedom march there, where Sen. Clinton declared: "As a young woman, I had the great privilege of hearing Dr. King speak in Chicago. The year was 1963. My youth minister from our church took a few of us down on a cold January night to hear [King]. . . . And he called on us, he challenged us that evening to stay awake during the great revolution that the civil rights pioneers were waging on behalf of a more perfect union." But Novak's article states that there's a big problem with her statement.
The fact is, in 1963, the same period of time she speeks of at all black church appearances, not only was Hillary Clinton a republican, but she was also a staunch supporter of republican Senator Barry Goldwater, well known as a segregationist and one of the most vocal senators adamently against the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which is why he lost in his presidential bid to Lyndon B. Johnson. Novak writes "...how then could she be a 'Goldwater Girl' in the next year's presidential election?" He continues, "...she described herself in her memoirs as 'an active Young Republican' and 'a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit.' (Hillary worked on Golwater's presidential campaign)
Novak adds, "As a politically attuned honor student, she must have known that Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators who joined Southern Democratic segregationists opposing the historic voting rights act of 1964 inspired by King. Hillary headed the Young Republicans at Wellesley College. The incompatibility of those two positions of 40 years ago was noted to me (Novak) by Democratic old-timers who were shocked by Sen. Clinton's temerity in pursuing her presidential candidacy." Novak adds, "What Hillary Clinton said at Selma is significant because it betrays her campaign's panicky reaction to the unexpected rise of Sen. Obama as a serious competitor for the Democratic nomination.

Clinton's plans were transformed by the advent of Obama, an African-American threatening the hard allegiance of black voters forged by Bill Clinton. On one hand, the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama and his supporters. On the other hand, she has sought to solidify her civil rights credentials.

While Clinton was re-inventing her past, her road to the White House is not going as planned. Instead of a steady procession to coronation at the Denver convention, she is involved in a real struggle against credible opponents led by Obama. No wonder she and her handlers were tempted to imply the existence long ago of a young lady in Chicago's suburbs who never really existed."

We greatly appreciate Mr. Novak's findings which bring one main thought to mind. Wake up Black America! DON'T BE FOOLED ! The fact is, Hillary was AGAINST the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. King died for. As a 'Goldwater Girl' she was even against Lyndon B. Johnson, the very person she now gives the credit to for Dr. King getting to the mountaintop. She has worked extremely hard to hide many truths about her past, including ordering that her 92 page college thesis that she wrote at Wellesley College be 'sealed' and unavailable to the public, an order forced upon the college by Bill Clinton while president, although all senior thesis' at Wellesley have been available for public reading for over 100 years, except one....Hillary Rodham Clinton's.
Reports have stated that information in her 'secret thesis' could be the 'Swift Boat' ammo to be used by the Republican Party against her should she become the nominee. (read more about 'secret thesis' at MSNBC)
In addition to re-inventing her past, the most obvious new Clinton strategy is to use 'token Negroes' like BET Founder Bob Johnson and Magic Johnson to name a couple, to attack and discredit Barack Obama, a tactic which many blacks find additionally offensive, calling these black Clinton cronies 'sell-outs'. Spread the word....share the facts. The Clinton's have been conning the black community for a long time and are NOT what they claim to be. I bet they go home at night, pour some wine, kick their feet up and just laugh like crazy about what big black suckers we are. But now, it's time to prove them wrong !
Greg Jones
Visit: http://www.Blacks4Barack.homestead.com/

Greg Jones at 5:45PM on Jan 16th 2008

4. Damn, J. Gray is on point on this one!! I mean as much as I was following the primaries it never occure to me that finally our issues were being discuss in the way that was effective to everyone. Not like rhyming Jessie or angry about everything Sharpton. I
certainly like what our new politicians(notice I didn't say black leaders)are accomplishing.

SMOOTHSMITTY at 10:16PM on Jan 16th 2008

5. You can't rely on black folk to come out and vote for you. If it rains on election day they stay home! I know Im black.
Keep it real in the feild
Im out

J Jackson at 8:16AM on Jan 17th 2008

6. If Race became an issue in the Democratic party between Obama and the Clintons wait until Obama runs against a Republican,
Hillary and Obama realized that this race argument was hurting both of them and turned it off.
The republicans won't be turning it off ....in fact they would rev it up.....its really their only chance to win !

Rob at 10:00AM on Jan 17th 2008

7. Lets compare 1964 to 2008,please get real..Times have changed and so have people and their beliefs...If you want to drag every skeleton out of someones closet you would never have anyone worthy or wanting to serve in public life. What makes me laugh even more is the you preach against Hilary's discrimination but your website blacks4obama doesn't use race as an issue? Should a black person vote only for Obama, because he is black. Shouldn't you vote for someone because you believe in them and their stance on the issues. I think we have come a long way since 1964 and most people (not all) can see past race, religion and sex and vote with their minds

sue at 10:01AM on Jan 17th 2008

8. I am Sue. A hot white girl with perfect sexy stature.
I’m seeking for a good man,
all can view my hot photos at http://multiraciallove.com by searching "peggysue". No matter who you are and where you come from…

kily at 10:32AM on Jan 17th 2008

9. I'm proud to say that I have never watched American Idol.

Black folks need to pay attention. This is our chance to have an impact on the election. We can't afford to stay out and then whine when nothing goes our way.

I've never missed an election since I could vote. It's not because the candidates have been so great but because in my lifetime (56 yrs.), I can remember seeing pictures of people getting beat up and killed so that Black people could exercise their right to vote. To not vote is an insult to their legacy.

Ellie at 11:39AM on Jan 17th 2008

10. this story is a good example of how the media is trying to manipulate (control) voters. What, because there is a black candidate, suddenly the black voter counts. The black voter always counted and we should all be looking at which person is best for the job, not race or religion, unless the religion is islam like obama's church is supported by. Do your research and vote wisely.If you really knew what obama was about( not black americans) he wouldn't stand a chance with us.

bing at 1:05PM on Jan 17th 2008

11. JUDGE IN NEVADA JUST SAID THE ELECTION CAUCUS IS GOING TO STAY LIKE IT WAS SET UP TO BEGIN WITH MY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LAST YEAR.
NO CHANGES TO BE MADE BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR.
THE CLINTONS CAN NOT CHANGE THINGS JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE IT. THE JUDGE SHOWED THAT. SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THAT GROUP APPROVED THAT VOTING LAST YEAR.

san at 3:50PM on Jan 17th 2008

12. ELLIE I'M A LITTLE OLDER THAN YOU AND I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS AS IF THEY WERE TODAY. BING TELL US ABOUT IT SO TRUE AND I PRAY BLACKS EYES BE OPEN , ESPECIALLY WHEN TODAY IT SEEMS WE ARE LIVING BACK IN THE 50 AND 50'S .I'M PRAYING THAT GOD GUIDE ME IN WHOM TO VOTE FOR . AND IT DEFINITELY WONT BE FOR SOME ONE CAUSE OF HIS OR HER COLOR. BUT ONES WHO ARE DOING THE WILL OF GOD FOR GOD'S WORLD AND NOT MANS WORLD AS MANY ACT AS IT IS .I'M LEARNING DAILY TO KEEP MY TRUST IN GOD AND GOD ALONE . MAN CAN ONLY DO A FEW THINGS, YET GOD CAN DO ALL THINGS AS HES IN CONTROL OF OUR LIVES AS HES THE ONE WHO CREATED ALL . YET , GOD IS IN CONTROL .ONE DAY OUR LIVES IN THIS WORLD WILL BE OVER WITH, YET THERES ANOTHER LIFE AHEAD FOR THOSE WHOSE TRUST AND FAITH IS IN GOD. HAVE A BLESSED EVENING
'

edith at 3:58PM on Jan 17th 2008

13. Anyone who depends on a politician, or anyone else, to better their situation is set up for failure. We do the same set up for our students. They only way they will succeed is if they do it themselves. We need to begin to deliver that message in a much more effective manner than just preaching to our students. They must discover that message and share it with each other, then do the work themselves.

I teach middle school in an inner-city Dallas school. We started a project to demonstrate to our students that they are the only ones who will ultimately be able to better their own lives. They focus on their own futures as they write letters to themselves before leaving 8th grade. These letters about their history and plans are sealed and placed by them into a 350 pound vault bolted to the floor in our school lobby. They know they will be invited back to a 10 year class reunion to retrieve their letter. They also know they will be invited to speak with the then current 8th grade class, 10 years younger than they will be, about their recommendations for success. They are warned to prepare for questions such as "Would you do anything differently if you were 13 again?"

Such planning for the future will help our students graduate and plan for their own lives. That is the only way they will get ahead. Someone else cannot do it for them. Some of them may deliver that message loud and clear when they return to their 10-year reunion.

Bill Betzen at 8:25AM on Jan 18th 2008

14. The race issue is evident! Obama is Black and that is undeniable! ...This society will be tested on its views about Black and white! .... Hypocrisy and deception will become more evident as time progresses with the campaign! .... Let us all learn to make judgments based upon what is best for this society and its position in international relationships!... OK?

R. Leland Smith at 1:56PM on Jan 18th 2008

15. Please people just remember what happen in the FL 2000 election. The Black elected offials needed Just one sitting senator to vote with them to stop the Bush coup d' tat. They couldn't get one. Not Hillary, Not even Al Gore who was VP at the time would help them. John Edwards was running for VP he to could have said something. Also Bill Clinton did nothing when 3 million Rowanda's were killed. He later said he regreted that he didn't help them. Do you think if they were Israelis the Jewish people would take him saying he's sorry. I don't think so. How would Black American feel if someone was killing millions of Catholic's or any white people, we would be so upset!

Reggie at 6:48PM on Jan 18th 2008

Next 15 Comments

Add your comments

Please keep your comments relevant to this blog entry: inappropriate or purely promotional comments may be removed. Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments. To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we will make it a live link for you. You can put up to 3 URLs in your comments. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted — no need to use <p> or <br> tags.

Your name (required):

Your email address (required, will not be shown to the public):

Your site’s URL (optional):

Do you want us to remember your personal information for next time?
   
Add your comments:

Comments

Most Recent Comments

(7 Days)
  • aubere on Power Outage: Celebs Who Have Lost "It"
  • Kim on JCPenney: "We Don't Do African-American Hair"
  • Prinzez on Brandy: Finally Talking About The Lies And Deceit
  • christina on Notable/Quotable: Miss New York
  • cat on Brandy: Finally Talking About The Lies And Deceit
  • Frank on Brandy: Finally Talking About The Lies And Deceit
  • girly girl on Would You Hire Hillary? Open Thread

Most Commented On

  • Wanda Sykes: Declaring Herself Gay, After Feeling 'Attacked' By Proposition 8 (1027)
  • Jennifer Hudson: Family Members Killed In Chicago (813)
  • Jennifer Hudson: Authorities Confirm Body Is Hudson's Nephew (716)
  • Barack Joins Fashion Police, Not Feeling Baggy Pants (517)
  • Hot Topics: Sherri Shepherd Talks Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Bill Maher, 'Madagascar,' Bernie Mac & more (485)
  • Tome Talk: Omarosa Talks Sarah Palin, Naomi Campbell, Spencer Pratt & others (407)
  • What If Hollywood Cast Election 2008? (396)
  • Dream Fulfilled! Obama Is President (380)
  • What's In A Name? Barack Hussein Obama (345)
  • Who's Black Now? Significance of One Drop (325)
  • Marion Jones Tells Oprah: "I Have to Find Out Who I Am" (300)
  • Newspaper Shames Locals Into Voting (281)

Find out what members are saying about everyone from Barack to Beyonce. There are nearly 100 forums from which to choose. Click on a category below and discover the right board for you.

  • Ages & Stages
  • Careers & Money
  • Cities
  • Education
  • Entertainment
  • Family & Ancestry
  • Gay & Lesbian
  • Health & Fitness
  • Hobbies & Interests
  • Love & Relationships
  • News & Sports
  • Spirituality
Also on AOL

More on Black Voices

  • African American Culture
  • Black Entertainment
  • Black News
  • Black TV
  • Black Blogs
  • Black Movies
  • Black Music Month
  • Black Gossip
  • Black Wealth
  • Black Community
  • Black Style
  • Black Hair
  • Black Celebrities
  • Election 2008

Hot Topics

  • Beyonce
  • Wanda Sykes Coming Out
  • Obama Called House Negro
  • Proposition 8: Prop H8
  • First Black Attorney General
  • Michelle Obama Fashion
  • Big Three Automakers Beg For Bailout
  • Barack Obama
  • Obama Inauguration Ticket Info
  • Obama on 60 Minutes
  • Keyshia Cole Hairstyles
  • NPR News and Notes
  • Essence.com
  • Black History 365
  • Martin Luther King
  • Celebrity Quotes
  • Quantum Of Solace : James Bond
  • Katt Williams

More On AOL

  • Mail
  • Search
  • Movies
  • Spinner
  • Winamp
  • Shoutcast
  • MapQuest
  • CityGuide
  • Games
  • Music
  • TMZ
  • Television
  • Sports
  • Money
  • Engadget
  • Autoblog
  • Joystiq
  • BloggingStocks
  • TUAW
  • DownloadSquad
  • Styledash
  • Cinematical
  • TVSquad
  • RSS/Feeds

  • Terms Of Use
  • Updated Terms Of Service
  • Privacy Policy
  • Updated Privacy Policy
  • Trademarks
  • Site Map
  • Advertise With Us

BlackVoices.com, the premiere site for African-American culture and community, offers African-American message boards, profiles and chats, African-American sports, African-American news, African-American entertainment, African-American style and beauty, relationship advice and more. Share your voice at BV!

© 2008 AOL LLC. All Rights Reserved.

BACK TO TOP