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Pharoahe Monch: "I learned so much from Puff"

Posted Jun 27th 2007 12:14PM by Ken Gibbs
Filed under: Off Topic

Pharoahe MonchPharoahe Monch began his career on a high note back in the early '90s with Prince Poetry as part of Organized Konfusion. They were hot enough to earn a name for themselves in the land of mighty emcees that was New York circa 1991 (remember 'Who Stole My Last Piece of Fried Chicken'?). But after an amicable split and a huge solo hit (1999's "Simon Says"), Pharoahe faded away from the spotlight, only to reemerge behind the scenes and write for moguls like P. Diddy (Monch penned 'The Future' from Diddy's "Press Play" album).

Monch is back with a new album, 'Desire,' that shows more than a few new tricks he's learned in his nearly decade-long absence from the charts. But who would have guessed that Pharoahe, the rapper's rapper, would have learned any of them from P. Diddy?

As told to Ken Gibbs:

I learned so much from Puff. People always take a step back, or raise their eyebrow when I say that, but he played me his music, then I played him some of my music. We're both Scorpios, so we were looking at each other in the office trying to figure each other out. On the low, I was just like I want to work with him to get behind the scenes to be like, this is what it's like to be in a trillion dollar environment and see how things are produced on that level. [laughs]

But what I got from him is that he has just as much integrity as me. He really respected my integrity in the studio, as far as a writer. And from him, he doesn't sleep. And what you get out of that is that it's not about how talented you are, necessarily, in entertainment. The person who usually puts in the most work gets rewarded, and he's working the most hours; and 50 Cent is working the most hours, Jay is working the most hours. I don't think people see that because it's an illusion outside of the studio. And you often listen to the radio and you're like, "I don't understand why they're playing that ..." And one of the reasons why is that these people are putting in work constantly. So, in getting that energy from Puff, just on a creative level, I left that project, went back to my project and was like, I'm not going to work harder on his than I am on mine! He just pushed me to go back, and that's what the exchange was partially like, me going back to my project to rewrite some things [after working with him].

And you know, he's in the studio with T.I., he's in the studio with Kanye, he's in the studio with Will.i.am. And he's just like, "I think it could be better." I'm writing verses, and we'll get to the last two lines, and he's like, "The last line ..." And I'm looking at him like, I'm Pharoah! What the f&$&k.

Desire Album coverBut if you've got a reach in and pull it out of yourself to do that, then you're going to leave the studio with that in a lot of different areas. And when you get stuck you'll think back to those moments, where you was like let me dig down and pull this sh!t off, at least so I can finish the damn thing and get out of the damn studio.

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1. It's good to see Pharoahe making a come back. Pharoahe is one of the most prolific rapper in the game. The problem is there no platform for his music just like mos def and talib kweli. Lyrically theses brother are untouchable but sadly there music get know airplay.

Lisa at 11:27AM on Jun 28th 2007

2. being around people that are serious about what they do will have an impact on someone trying to strive for better. I'm not surprised that he learned something from Puff. Puff has been cutting his teeth for years. He had to work for what he has now.

Warren at 1:27PM on Jun 28th 2007

3. PUFF DADDY PUFFY DIDDY SEAN COMBS WHATEVER THAT DUDE IS GOOD MONEY!! TIL THIS DAY I KNOW HE HURTS WHEN HE THINKS ABOUT BIG N PUFFY IS A VERY STRONG MAN BIGGIE WAS HIS N-A FOR LIFE N HE DIDNT MAKE IT I PROMISE U PUFF DIDNT THINK HE WOULD BE WHERE HE IS TODAY ESPECIALLY WHEN BIG DIED, GO PUFFY, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SUCCESS N FAMILY!

INDIANNNESS9 at 5:58PM on Jul 2nd 2007

4. PHAROAH FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO THE INDUSTRY IS SO CRAZY RIGHT NOW, DMX TRIED N IT AINT WORK IM NOT HATING ITS THE TRUTH DMX JUST DROPPED HIS GREATEST HITS ALBUM HE NEEDS A COUPLE DOLLARS WELL HE GOT 13.00 FROMME CAUSE I GOT THE GREATEST HITS TOO, SORRY.

INDIANNNESS9 at 6:04PM on Jul 2nd 2007

5. I am soo happy that he is making a come back because I bet my BFF a long time ago that he would!

Genette at 9:23AM on Jul 3rd 2007

6. This Dude, Talib and others don't get the air play like they should in PHILLY because, PHILLY stations are whack - Lupe Fiasco just started getting some air play. The record labels need to wake up and realize what they are producing in getting tired, very tired.
Thank goodness for satellite radio and some of the N.Y. stations that I am lucky to get on a good day

Kimberly at 9:24AM on Jul 3rd 2007

7. PUFF DADDY I THINK IS A GENIUS DANCING DOING THE VIDEOS THE BEATS! THE BEATS, LISTEN PUFFY HOOKED ALOT OF FOLKS UP, HE KNOWS HIS MUSIC THATS ALL I CAN SAY FROM MARYJ TO TOTAL FAITH EVANS BIGGIE THE REMIX'S IS SICK FROM ALL THERE ALBUMS. PUFFY WENT BACK INTO THE 70'S N 80'S WITH THE MUSIC N SLAUGHTERED!! GO DIDDY! BIGGIE N PUFF'S BEEN AROUND THE WORLD VIDEO U CANT COME FOR IT THE SONG NOTHING... DONT STOP WITH LIL KIM FROM THE SOULFOOOD SOUNDTRACK, IT GOES ON WORD I COULD BE ALL DAY WHEN IT COMES TO PUFF DADDY HE IS MEAN "THAT'S MEANT IN A GOOD WAY" HOLLA!!!!

INDIANNNESS9 at 10:51AM on Jul 3rd 2007

8. Now I see why Diddy's cd FLOPPED...

Dwain at 10:51AM on Jul 3rd 2007

9. O.K. now it's clear why Diddy's CD flopped & Keisha Cole & Him did soo horrible @ the BET Awards

Dwain at 10:51AM on Jul 3rd 2007

10. If U are not already a Pharoahe fan watch his video for "The Mayor" & it will make U one.
Click the SCI link below to watch it...

SCI at 10:53AM on Jul 3rd 2007

11. Pharoah is a Bird. He's stupid nobody cares about him PuFFs time is almost UP

Jared at 10:53AM on Jul 3rd 2007

12. My Favorite Pharoahe song & video is "The Mayor",I hope he does not slide into commercial territory like most of todays Hip Hop artists. Keep making those social & politcal lyrical gems that your fans love.

Sci at 10:54AM on Jul 3rd 2007

13. to cee cee i think your just a young cat who has no understanding of a true m.c in every sense of the word. Do your research and get back at me. P. monch one of the true pioneers of the game.

sixty40 at 10:54AM on Jul 3rd 2007

14. Dude, all I got to say is, if P. Monch sold out on his next album then that's it. Hip Hop is truly dead. I'm going back to R.A.P. (Rhythm And Poetry).

Reason Disciple at 10:54AM on Jul 3rd 2007

15. my first thought was----"what could pharoahe learn from this hack moron ?!? this has got to be a joke" but in reading it.....yeah,i can see picking up a good,or even better,work ethic...much luck to pharoahe on his new project..saw the billboard for it (the mummy wrapping was ill)and heard about the cover to "welcome to the terrordome" and said i had to peep this....

al at 10:55AM on Jul 3rd 2007

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