The Forgotten Art of the Hard Foul
What Escalated the Knicks-Nuggets Brawl?
Roy S. Johnson, AOL Black Voices Columnist,
Posted: 2006-12-20 13:23:21
Knicks-Nuggets Brawl
Players and officials separate Nate Robinson and J.R Smith as the brawl finally cools down.
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W.W.I.D. What would Isiah do? Those of us who were around the game
when Isiah Thomas, the player, was a little man with a big man’s
ferocity know exactly what the now New York Knicks president and head
coach would have done had J.R. Smith, the acrobatic guard of the Denver
Nuggets, been barreling towards the basket during a rout against
Thomas’ former team, the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons. He’d have done just what Knicks rookie Mardy Collins did, only better.
Thomas would have hammered him. He’d have sent Smith sprawling and tumbling. But then the diminutive point guard with the angelic face and assassin’s heart would have slipped from the fray while Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, Dennis Rodman, Joe Dumars and various sundry Pistons enforcers dared anyone to retaliate.
Thomas would have hammered him. He’d have sent Smith sprawling and tumbling. But then the diminutive point guard with the angelic face and assassin’s heart would have slipped from the fray while Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, Dennis Rodman, Joe Dumars and various sundry Pistons enforcers dared anyone to retaliate.
That was the good old bad old days of the NBA when
everyone knew their roles and, more important, knew the unwritten,
unspoken boundaries of macho behavior:
A rout on an opponents’ floor was cool as long as the routers didn’t showboat and taunt the routees. That’s when somebody was going down. “If a team was up by a lot on your home floor and they were laughing on the bench, that was okay,” says Maurice Lucas, a Hall of Fame enforcer and now an assistant coach with the Portland TrailBlazers, in a telephone chat on Sunday evening. “But if teams were up by a lot and getting fancy…” He started laughing. No need the complete the sentence.
If you’re up by a bunch in the final minutes, don’t keep driving to the basket. “That’s showing no respect for your big guys,” says Lucas. “You’d at least have to show them there’s a no-fly zone.”
Commit a hard foul but not with the intent of hurting an opponent. “The art of the hard foul is lost,” said Lucas. “There’s a difference between a hard foul and a dirty foul. [Collins] committed a dirty foul. He could have slammed the guy into the post and hurt his neck.”
Never ever (or at least mostly never) sucker-punch a guy. “You don’t really want to fight,” Lucas says. “You only fight when you’re trying to protect something, like your ego. But even then it’s not worth it in the long-run. Too expensive.”
And superstars, stay out of the mix. “That’s right,” Lucas said. “Let the rest of us handle it.”
Carmelo Anthony, Nate Robinson -- and likely Collins and Smith -- are about to discover the price for their ugly skirmish Friday night in Madison Square Garden. With 1:15 left, well, forget the details, all hell broke loose.
Collins horse-collared Smith. Smith took umbrage. Robinson woofed. Smith took umbrage and tackled he little fella. Carmelo took umbrage and, well, lost his sanity.
He sucker-punched Collins then became Michael Jackson doing the Moonwalk on skates. He retreated so fast television cameras had trouble keeping him in the frame. (For this action, the word “punk” was used frequently by visitors to my blog, www.passtheword,wordpress.com).
Knick forward Jared Jeffries chased not-so-mellow ‘Melo like he’d stole his wallet. Fortunately for all he was tripped up by Nuggets center Marcus Camby and calf-wrestled by a hoard of Knick assistant coaches.
Lucas says one reason the fight may have escalated is due to the overall lack of physical play today. So guys are touchy when things do get rough. “The game has gotten soft anyway,” He said. “I don’t think guys think about how to help teammate because it’s so expensive to do. If I was playing today, I’d be second-guessing things myself. Guys are more conscious of the consequences.”
Perhaps the most intriguing - and potentially troubling – aspect of the melee was that its roots just may have laid in circumstances that had little to do with the 10 players on the floor who were ejected from the game.
Last season, Thomas unceremoniously fired Larry Brown, an ace boon coon of Nuggets coach George Karl. This summer, Karl made some nasty remarks about the firing, which prompted Thomas to seek Karl out during the summer league in Las Vegas and “ask” him to worry about his own franchise.
The two men vowed they’d settled their differences earlier this season when the Knicks defeated the Nuggets in Denver. But as our boy Arsenio would have said, I didn’t go “Hmmm,” when I noticed Anthony, the league’s leading scorer, Smith and Camby – all starters – were still in the game in the final fruitless minutes.
Was Karl rubbing it in the Knicks faces on their home court? He would not say.
Did Thomas – now a suit – order some sort of old-school retaliation? Anthony reportedly said Thomas told him to stay away from “the paint,” an indication that a hard foul was about to occur. Thomas did not address the accusation after the game, only saying Collins may have been trying to ensure Smith did not execute another Barnam-and-Bailey slam, as he’d done moments before.
I’d be surprised if Thomas and/or Karl were hit with fines and/or suspensions given how difficult it might be for even David Stern, ’s sleuths to prove what was in their hearts. But it seems likely they were not innocent bystanders.
But then W.D.I.D. What did Isiah do? We’ll probably never really know.
Lucas remembered a particular story from his days in the late 70s with the Portland TrailBlazers when his then NBA champs where putting a pasting on the Indiana Pacers in Indianapolis. Portland guard Lionel Hollins was playing for the stat sheet against Pacer guards Ricky Sobers and (Super) John Williamson, no Mr. Softees either of them. “I told him not to go [into the lane] with those two boys,” Lucas recalls. “We were kicking them. He got killed. There was a lot of pushing and shoving but no big fight. It was kind of a choice Lionel made. Those two guys were dirty. You knew not to mess with them anyway.”
The guy not to mess with these days is commissioner David Stern, who’s about to show, once again, that the NBA is now a no-fight zone.
A rout on an opponents’ floor was cool as long as the routers didn’t showboat and taunt the routees. That’s when somebody was going down. “If a team was up by a lot on your home floor and they were laughing on the bench, that was okay,” says Maurice Lucas, a Hall of Fame enforcer and now an assistant coach with the Portland TrailBlazers, in a telephone chat on Sunday evening. “But if teams were up by a lot and getting fancy…” He started laughing. No need the complete the sentence.
If you’re up by a bunch in the final minutes, don’t keep driving to the basket. “That’s showing no respect for your big guys,” says Lucas. “You’d at least have to show them there’s a no-fly zone.”
Commit a hard foul but not with the intent of hurting an opponent. “The art of the hard foul is lost,” said Lucas. “There’s a difference between a hard foul and a dirty foul. [Collins] committed a dirty foul. He could have slammed the guy into the post and hurt his neck.”
Never ever (or at least mostly never) sucker-punch a guy. “You don’t really want to fight,” Lucas says. “You only fight when you’re trying to protect something, like your ego. But even then it’s not worth it in the long-run. Too expensive.”
And superstars, stay out of the mix. “That’s right,” Lucas said. “Let the rest of us handle it.”
Carmelo Anthony, Nate Robinson -- and likely Collins and Smith -- are about to discover the price for their ugly skirmish Friday night in Madison Square Garden. With 1:15 left, well, forget the details, all hell broke loose.
Collins horse-collared Smith. Smith took umbrage. Robinson woofed. Smith took umbrage and tackled he little fella. Carmelo took umbrage and, well, lost his sanity.
He sucker-punched Collins then became Michael Jackson doing the Moonwalk on skates. He retreated so fast television cameras had trouble keeping him in the frame. (For this action, the word “punk” was used frequently by visitors to my blog, www.passtheword,wordpress.com).
Knick forward Jared Jeffries chased not-so-mellow ‘Melo like he’d stole his wallet. Fortunately for all he was tripped up by Nuggets center Marcus Camby and calf-wrestled by a hoard of Knick assistant coaches.
Lucas says one reason the fight may have escalated is due to the overall lack of physical play today. So guys are touchy when things do get rough. “The game has gotten soft anyway,” He said. “I don’t think guys think about how to help teammate because it’s so expensive to do. If I was playing today, I’d be second-guessing things myself. Guys are more conscious of the consequences.”
Perhaps the most intriguing - and potentially troubling – aspect of the melee was that its roots just may have laid in circumstances that had little to do with the 10 players on the floor who were ejected from the game.
Last season, Thomas unceremoniously fired Larry Brown, an ace boon coon of Nuggets coach George Karl. This summer, Karl made some nasty remarks about the firing, which prompted Thomas to seek Karl out during the summer league in Las Vegas and “ask” him to worry about his own franchise.
The two men vowed they’d settled their differences earlier this season when the Knicks defeated the Nuggets in Denver. But as our boy Arsenio would have said, I didn’t go “Hmmm,” when I noticed Anthony, the league’s leading scorer, Smith and Camby – all starters – were still in the game in the final fruitless minutes.
Was Karl rubbing it in the Knicks faces on their home court? He would not say.
Did Thomas – now a suit – order some sort of old-school retaliation? Anthony reportedly said Thomas told him to stay away from “the paint,” an indication that a hard foul was about to occur. Thomas did not address the accusation after the game, only saying Collins may have been trying to ensure Smith did not execute another Barnam-and-Bailey slam, as he’d done moments before.
I’d be surprised if Thomas and/or Karl were hit with fines and/or suspensions given how difficult it might be for even David Stern, ’s sleuths to prove what was in their hearts. But it seems likely they were not innocent bystanders.
But then W.D.I.D. What did Isiah do? We’ll probably never really know.
Lucas remembered a particular story from his days in the late 70s with the Portland TrailBlazers when his then NBA champs where putting a pasting on the Indiana Pacers in Indianapolis. Portland guard Lionel Hollins was playing for the stat sheet against Pacer guards Ricky Sobers and (Super) John Williamson, no Mr. Softees either of them. “I told him not to go [into the lane] with those two boys,” Lucas recalls. “We were kicking them. He got killed. There was a lot of pushing and shoving but no big fight. It was kind of a choice Lionel made. Those two guys were dirty. You knew not to mess with them anyway.”
The guy not to mess with these days is commissioner David Stern, who’s about to show, once again, that the NBA is now a no-fight zone.
2006-05-01 14:20:17
About the Author
About the author: Award-winning sportswriter, author, consultant and frequent television commentator Roy S. Johnson is a former assistant managing editor at Sports Illustrated. He covered major sports for SI, The New York Times and The Atlanta Journal Constitution, and was the founding Editor-In-Chief of Savoy. He's co-authored autobiographies with Earvin (Magic) Johnson and Charles Barkley, and is working on another book. His sports blog is located at: passtheword.wordpress.com. His column appears each Monday on AOL Black Voices